I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
Nick: with the jib backed and the main pulling the M17 will hove-to easily. based on what you described is your main luffing as you are putting in a reef? -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
Yes Nick and Pam On 19 August 2014 20:03, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Nick:
with the jib backed and the main pulling the M17 will hove-to easily.
based on what you described is your main luffing as you are putting in a reef?
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field < nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
I find that with the genoa up (hanked on sails) I have to slack it quite a bit, so it is actually ballooning across to leeward somewhat. The main is usually sheeted in somewhere over the leeward seats. Hard enough to keep the boat turned up, otherwise it is just a slide to leeward. When everything is right, we kind of head up, then a bit back down, then back up etc. With the 110 jib on, I can keep it sheeted harder in the back winded position. Have to play with the main a bit more. Keep trying Nick. You will find it. Check your centreboard position next time as well. All the way down? Bill Makin' Time #622 Cambridge ON
On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
Thanks I was trying it with my furling jib at around 100% I'll try next time in lighter wind at the time it was blowing 20 to 25 knots got the reef in but a lot of slide she performed well with the reef in and the 100% Thanks again Nick with Maada Nick and Pam On 19 August 2014 20:40, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
I find that with the genoa up (hanked on sails) I have to slack it quite a bit, so it is actually ballooning across to leeward somewhat. The main is usually sheeted in somewhere over the leeward seats. Hard enough to keep the boat turned up, otherwise it is just a slide to leeward. When everything is right, we kind of head up, then a bit back down, then back up etc.
With the 110 jib on, I can keep it sheeted harder in the back winded position. Have to play with the main a bit more.
Keep trying Nick. You will find it. Check your centreboard position next time as well. All the way down?
Bill Makin' Time #622 Cambridge ON
On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
With my M17 and roller reeding 150 genoa, I can heave to in even heavy wind if I reduce the genoa to 2/3 or less first. Then I can heave to to reef the main. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Aug 25, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks I was trying it with my furling jib at around 100% I'll try next time in lighter wind at the time it was blowing 20 to 25 knots got the reef in but a lot of slide she performed well with the reef in and the 100% Thanks again Nick with Maada
Nick and Pam
On 19 August 2014 20:40, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
I find that with the genoa up (hanked on sails) I have to slack it quite a bit, so it is actually ballooning across to leeward somewhat. The main is usually sheeted in somewhere over the leeward seats. Hard enough to keep the boat turned up, otherwise it is just a slide to leeward. When everything is right, we kind of head up, then a bit back down, then back up etc.
With the 110 jib on, I can keep it sheeted harder in the back winded position. Have to play with the main a bit more.
Keep trying Nick. You will find it. Check your centreboard position next time as well. All the way down?
Bill Makin' Time #622 Cambridge ON
On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
That should be roller reefing. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Aug 25, 2014, at 7:08 PM, GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> wrote:
With my M17 and roller reeding 150 genoa, I can heave to in even heavy wind if I reduce the genoa to 2/3 or less first. Then I can heave to to reef the main.
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Aug 25, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks I was trying it with my furling jib at around 100% I'll try next time in lighter wind at the time it was blowing 20 to 25 knots got the reef in but a lot of slide she performed well with the reef in and the 100% Thanks again Nick with Maada
Nick and Pam
On 19 August 2014 20:40, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
I find that with the genoa up (hanked on sails) I have to slack it quite a bit, so it is actually ballooning across to leeward somewhat. The main is usually sheeted in somewhere over the leeward seats. Hard enough to keep the boat turned up, otherwise it is just a slide to leeward. When everything is right, we kind of head up, then a bit back down, then back up etc.
With the 110 jib on, I can keep it sheeted harder in the back winded position. Have to play with the main a bit more.
Keep trying Nick. You will find it. Check your centreboard position next time as well. All the way down?
Bill Makin' Time #622 Cambridge ON
On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
Gary, Didn't even notice your mis-spelling until you pointed it out with your 2nd e-mail. We read what we expect to read in the context of the rest. Steve M-15 # 335 formerly of Lake Couer D' Alene ----- Original Message ----- From: "GARY M HYDE" <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Heave-to That should be roller reefing. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Aug 25, 2014, at 7:08 PM, GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> wrote:
With my M17 and roller reeding 150 genoa, I can heave to in even heavy wind if I reduce the genoa to 2/3 or less first. Then I can heave to to reef the main.
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Aug 25, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks I was trying it with my furling jib at around 100% I'll try next time in lighter wind at the time it was blowing 20 to 25 knots got the reef in but a lot of slide she performed well with the reef in and the 100% Thanks again Nick with Maada
Nick and Pam
On 19 August 2014 20:40, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
I find that with the genoa up (hanked on sails) I have to slack it quite a bit, so it is actually ballooning across to leeward somewhat. The main is usually sheeted in somewhere over the leeward seats. Hard enough to keep the boat turned up, otherwise it is just a slide to leeward. When everything is right, we kind of head up, then a bit back down, then back up etc.
With the 110 jib on, I can keep it sheeted harder in the back winded position. Have to play with the main a bit more.
Keep trying Nick. You will find it. Check your centreboard position next time as well. All the way down?
Bill Makin' Time #622 Cambridge ON
On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Nick and Pam Field <nickpamfield@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm in my second season of summer sailing my Montgomery 17 and have been trying to heave-to so I can reduce sail. I've followed what has worked in the past backing the jib with the rudder over so she heads into the wind but to no avail. My Monty wants to slide off the wind and slip sideways losing all kinds of ground Any pointers what am I doing wrong she really doesn't like her nose to the wind Nick from Maada in Halifax
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