No, Neil, sounds like you can just pitch the adjustor and it will be fine if it doesn't bind, and I can't see why it would. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf@surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: M15 Standing Rigging from hell

Hello all,

hoping to get collective wisdom from the group on this topic:

I have a turnbuckle on my forestay, but I also have a fixed chain adjuster (same as the type as are also found on port and starboard M15 chainplates) on my forward chainplate. The end of the turnbuckle is pinned to the first available bottom hole of the chainplate, and with the turnbuckle collapsed to it's shortest length, the whole assembly is still too long and I have too much rake aft.

Is there anything wrong or dangerous with just removing the adjuster from the forward chainplate, and just pinning the end of the turnbuckle right to the chainplate? Doing that would shorten the total forestay length by about 1", which may make a significant difference.

Ideas welcome. Sooner or later I'll bite the bullet and start over with the standing rigging but when all is said and done, the wire is in decent shape, it's just the lengths that are driving me buggy.

Thanks,

Neil M15 "TwoCan" Roseville CA

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neil: take a read of this from jerry montgomery concerning the rigging on the M15 - "Regarding the Montgomery 15, the only change I ever made to the standing rigging during the production life of the boat was to increase the length of the forestay about an inch and shorten the shrouds about half that much. Initially, there was an amazing coincidence in that all three wires were nearly the same length; plenty close enough so that the stay adjusters would take up the difference if the forestay was set in one of the last two holes. Only problem was that new sailors would try to balance all the wires to as close to the center of the adjusters as possible which set up the mast too plumb; the 15 sails best with the mast raked aft. As soon as I became aware that people were doing this I simply lengthened the forestay and shortened the shrouds, encouraging owners to set up the mast with a little rake. I hate to see Montgomery boats going slow!" ( http://www.jerrymontgomery.org/prices_for_montgomery_boats.htm ) what measurements do you have for your standing rigging? :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Tue, 4/5/11, ndorf@surfbest.net <ndorf@surfbest.net> wrote:

Hello all,

hoping to get collective wisdom from the group on this topic:

I have a turnbuckle on my forestay, but I also have a fixed chain adjuster (same as the type as are also found on port and starboard M15 chainplates) on my forward chainplate. The end of the turnbuckle is pinned to the first available bottom hole of the chainplate, and with the turnbuckle collapsed to it's shortest length, the whole assembly is still too long and I have too much rake aft.

Is there anything wrong or dangerous with just removing the adjuster from the forward chainplate, and just pinning the end of the turnbuckle right to the chainplate? Doing that would shorten the total forestay length by about 1", which may make a significant difference.

Ideas welcome. Sooner or later I'll bite the bullet and start over with the standing rigging but when all is said and done, the wire is in decent shape, it's just the lengths that are driving me buggy.

Thanks,

Neil M15 "TwoCan" Roseville CA

Neil, just sent a post to Jerry M. about the forestay on my rig. I used a turnbuckle and tossed the regular adjuster. (I had too much length on the forestay) On the t. buckle I tossed on threaded end and shackled the that end to the chain plate. I wired it all then covered the mess a short piece of pvc. It's not easy to adjust but it seems to work so far. I don't think Jerry will like it. I was just trying to save a buck by not getting (another) new forestay. ---Larry (with old 189) (not quite ready for Folsom...I have some cams and blocks to install on starboard) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf@surfbest.net Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:58 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: M15 Standing Rigging from hell Hello all, hoping to get collective wisdom from the group on this topic: I have a turnbuckle on my forestay, but I also have a fixed chain adjuster (same as the type as are also found on port and starboard M15 chainplates) on my forward chainplate. The end of the turnbuckle is pinned to the first available bottom hole of the chainplate, and with the turnbuckle collapsed to it's shortest length, the whole assembly is still too long and I have too much rake aft. Is there anything wrong or dangerous with just removing the adjuster from the forward chainplate, and just pinning the end of the turnbuckle right to the chainplate? Doing that would shorten the total forestay length by about 1", which may make a significant difference. Ideas welcome. Sooner or later I'll bite the bullet and start over with the standing rigging but when all is said and done, the wire is in decent shape, it's just the lengths that are driving me buggy. Thanks, Neil M15 "TwoCan" Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!