In a message dated 12/22/2005 10:53:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, daideo@webtv.net writes: Terry Hi Terry, Welcome aboard. Go to the Photo Site and look at 2005 M-15 "Bella" or "Sirius" both have factory ladders and mtr mounts. Any other mounts and ladders would be a special order. If you happen to see the one you are interested in and can get a boat name, that would nail it down and the owner could probably say where it came from. I looked to see if I have a picture of that boat with the platform but I dont (and should!) I recall the platform has been brought up a couple of times on the list. But, I dont remember whos boat. Doesn't West Marine have a similar platform? When Montgomery Boats assembles a new boat for you, they can pretty much use any logical and durable style of anything, but you'll need to specify as there isn't a current listing of options. I do know that is being worked on though. And, to let you know... People who buy a Monty rarely find one in their back yard. Most folks will go to great lengths to get one. One of our group, Sean Mulligan, just did a 5200 mile round trip to bring his (new to him) M23 home. And that was after flying down to FLA from AZ to look at it first. Just another Monty nut (no offense Sean). AND, Seans trip isn't the longest one. Others on the list have gone farther. If you get an opporitunity to sail onboard the M-15, you'll see what I mean when I say "Brand Loyal" they are the biggest sailing small boat one can find. Bill _www.msogphotosite.com_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com)