New-guy/Old-guy / "Mature" M15
New here but long-time, original owner of Montgomery 15 #324 (“Shenanigans”), built May 1985. I’ve always loved the boat. My kids practically grew up on it and my son's now at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, so I guess he liked the experience well enough. I have worked hard to take care of the boat, but “family dynamics” separated me from it for three years, while it sat in a slip in warm-water Lake Travis in Austin, Texas, rarely used or maintained, baking in the Texas sun. Algae growth on the hull did lead to two haul-outs and acid washes at the marina. I got the boat back recently and, not surprisingly, it’s time for some refitting, repairs, and elbow grease. New lines all around, bulleyes, blocks, cleats, and more. The biggest disappointment was to discover gelcoat blisters, albeit most in the ¼-inch range, with a few larger ones. As soon as Minnesota’s winter ends (it snowed yesterday, and yes, that would be April 27), I’m ready to start in on that nasty little project. Since I’ll not likely ever leave the boat in a slip long-term again, I could probably just leave them, but I hate seeing them and knowing what they mean. Any thoughts on that – best to bite the bullet and get them ground out and properly filled? A few are large enough that I’m looking at an epoxy filler, while others may be fillable with just gelcoat, either laminate or a single application. I’d like to avoid bottom paint, if at all possible. All the teak is in great need of TLC. Some of it I’ll treat, clean, sand and oil (toe rails – hard to do in place, but the prospect of pulling them hasn’t entertained me yet), while other pieces will be replaced (top rails, hatchboards). I’m not getting any younger and I have to account for the value of my time, which is also limited during any given period. The fiberglass outboard motor bracket deteriorated and broke away on one side – the motor shaft had been left down in the water, and I suppose the constant wave-rocking over years’ time just eventually fatigued the glass -- so I’ll be removing that and, likely, replacing it with an adjustable bracket, so that I’m not dragging the prop while sailing. Sealant around the mast step and the through-wiring for the masthead light had shrunk, permitting moisture to drip down onto the largest cabin cushion, with damage sufficient to require replacement. If any of you have the name of whoever makes these (or did), I’d appreciate the info. Otherwise, I’ll start casting about for a local outfit to try to copy them. “Shenanigans” will be back on the water (rivers and inland lakes, Minnesota) by mid-June, likely, ready for another quarter-century’s run. I have a photo of it on the trailer just a few years ago, before it went south, and – then nearly 20 years old -- she looked about as good as when first shipped up here by Montgomery. I’m 100% sure I can bring her back to life, if not to Bristol shape, then at least to turn heads again the way she used to. Nice to find this list. Cheers, from Stillwater, Minnesota
Hey another Monty owner in Minnesota, always nice to see another one, welcome. --Chad "Pugsley" 1977 Monty 17 On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:59 PM, paint4real@aol.com wrote:
New here but long-time, original owner of Montgomery 15 #324 (“Shenanigans”), built May 1985. I’ve always loved the boat. My kids practically grew up on it and my son's now at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, so I guess he liked the experience well enough. I have worked hard to take care of the boat, but “family dynamics” separated me from it for three years, while it sat in a slip in warm- water Lake Travis in Austin, Texas, rarely used or maintained, baking in the Texas sun. Algae growth on the hull did lead to two haul-outs and acid washes at the marina.
I got the boat back recently and, not surprisingly, it’s time for some refitting, repairs, and elbow grease. New lines all around, bulleyes, blocks, cleats, and more.
The biggest disappointment was to discover gelcoat blisters, albeit most in the ¼-inch range, with a few larger ones. As soon as Minnesota’s winter ends (it snowed yesterday, and yes, that would be April 27), I’m ready to start in on that nasty little project. Since I’ll not likely ever leave the boat in a slip long-term again, I could probably just leave them, but I hate seeing them and knowing what they mean. Any thoughts on that – best to bite the bullet and get them ground out and properly filled? A few are large enough that I’m looking at an epoxy filler, while others may be fillable with just gelcoat, either laminate or a single application. I’d like to avoid bottom paint, if at all possible.
All the teak is in great need of TLC. Some of it I’ll treat, clean, sand and oil (toe rails – hard to do in place, but the prospect of pulling them hasn’t entertained me yet), while other pieces will be replaced (top rails, hatchboards). I’m not getting any younger and I have to account for the value of my time, which is also limited during any given period.
The fiberglass outboard motor bracket deteriorated and broke away on one side – the motor shaft had been left down in the water, and I suppose the constant wave-rocking over years’ time just eventually fatigued the glass -- so I’ll be removing that and, likely, replacing it with an adjustable bracket, so that I’m not dragging the prop while sailing.
Sealant around the mast step and the through-wiring for the masthead light had shrunk, permitting moisture to drip down onto the largest cabin cushion, with damage sufficient to require replacement. If any of you have the name of whoever makes these (or did), I’d appreciate the info. Otherwise, I’ll start casting about for a local outfit to try to copy them.
“Shenanigans” will be back on the water (rivers and inland lakes, Minnesota) by mid-June, likely, ready for another quarter-century’s run. I have a photo of it on the trailer just a few years ago, before it went south, and – then nearly 20 years old -- she looked about as good as when first shipped up here by Montgomery. I’m 100% sure I can bring her back to life, if not to Bristol shape, then at least to turn heads again the way she used to.
Nice to find this list.
Cheers, from Stillwater, Minnesota
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Hello (not seeing your name, but I probably missed it), sorry to hear about your blisters. I just did a very similar job last fall finding mostly fingernail size blisters below the waterline on the starboard side (only). The only method I have used is to use epoxy as filler. Usually thickened up quite a bit. The fairing stuff from Interlux or others would probably work better but I have always just used the West system epoxy since it is in the garage. Seems the prevailing advice is to open the blisters and fill them then go over with a barrier coat like Interlux 2000e or similar. Not sure on the call of whether you need to fix them if you are going to dry sail the boat. If there are cracks in the gel coat from the delamination like there was on my M-17 I would worry about water getting in the blisters and causing more damage but I really do not know if that would happen. Having used gelcoat to do large repair areas I think it might be difficult to do repairs of the blisters that way. I know that the advice is not to use gel coat but rather epoxy to fill the blisters as it is supposed to be better all around in terms of the repair. Good luck with the snow! Robbin paint4real@aol.com wrote:
New here but long-time, original owner of Montgomery 15 #324 (“Shenanigans”), built May 1985. I’ve always loved the boat. My kids practically grew up on it and my son's now at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, so I guess he liked the experience well enough. I have worked hard to take care of the boat, but “family dynamics” separated me from it for three years, while it sat in a slip in warm-water Lake Travis in Austin, Texas, rarely used or maintained, baking in the Texas sun. Algae growth on the hull did lead to two haul-outs and acid washes at the marina.
I got the boat back recently and, not surprisingly, it’s time for some refitting, repairs, and elbow grease. New lines all around, bulleyes, blocks, cleats, and more.
The biggest disappointment was to discover gelcoat blisters, albeit most in the ¼-inch range, with a few larger ones. As soon as Minnesota’s winter ends (it snowed yesterday, and yes, that would be April 27), I’m ready to start in on that nasty little project. Since I’ll not likely ever leave the boat in a slip long-term again, I could probably just leave them, but I hate seeing them and knowing what they mean. Any thoughts on that – best to bite the bullet and get them ground out and properly filled? A few are large enough that I’m looking at an epoxy filler, while others may be fillable with just gelcoat, either laminate or a single application. I’d like to avoid bottom paint, if at all possible.
All the teak is in great need of TLC. Some of it I’ll treat, clean, sand and oil (toe rails – hard to do in place, but the prospect of pulling them hasn’t entertained me yet), while other pieces will be replaced (top rails, hatchboards). I’m not getting any younger and I have to account for the value of my time, which is also limited during any given period.
The fiberglass outboard motor bracket deteriorated and broke away on one side – the motor shaft had been left down in the water, and I suppose the constant wave-rocking over years’ time just eventually fatigued the glass -- so I’ll be removing that and, likely, replacing it with an adjustable bracket, so that I’m not dragging the prop while sailing.
Sealant around the mast step and the through-wiring for the masthead light had shrunk, permitting moisture to drip down onto the largest cabin cushion, with damage sufficient to require replacement. If any of you have the name of whoever makes these (or did), I’d appreciate the info. Otherwise, I’ll start casting about for a local outfit to try to copy them.
“Shenanigans” will be back on the water (rivers and inland lakes, Minnesota) by mid-June, likely, ready for another quarter-century’s run. I have a photo of it on the trailer just a few years ago, before it went south, and – then nearly 20 years old -- she looked about as good as when first shipped up here by Montgomery. I’m 100% sure I can bring her back to life, if not to Bristol shape, then at least to turn heads again the way she used to.
Nice to find this list.
Cheers, from Stillwater, Minnesota
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Welcome aboard skipper The Pelican is older that Shenanigans. I am the origional owner and am just finishing an "exstream makeover" . My son also learned to sail on the Pelican and I have nothing but wonderfull memories of her with one exception. The swelling of the keel and center board due to steel rather than lead construction. Pelican sat for years in the backyard and I was in a state of depression over her. This form was the source of her salvation with all of the encouragement and advice from the skippers out there. I'm getting to emotional Any way it will be worth your efforts. Here is my two cents: 1) Remove the teak to work on it. Not that hard to refinish and replace existing teak or add new teak 2)If your center board is steel replace it with a lead one from Bob Eeg Dont take a chance of it swelling. 3) Replace the standing rigging. Not expensive contact Jerry Montgomery Captain James Albert Sadler skipper sailing vessel Pelican M-15 ** On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM, <paint4real@aol.com> wrote:
New here but long-time, original owner of Montgomery 15 #324 ("Shenanigans"), built May 1985. I've always loved the boat. My kids practically grew up on it and my son's now at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, so I guess he liked the experience well enough. I have worked hard to take care of the boat, but "family dynamics" separated me from it for three years, while it sat in a slip in warm-water Lake Travis in Austin, Texas, rarely used or maintained, baking in the Texas sun. Algae growth on the hull did lead to two haul-outs and acid washes at the marina.
I got the boat back recently and, not surprisingly, it's time for some refitting, repairs, and elbow grease. New lines all around, bulleyes, blocks, cleats, and more.
The biggest disappointment was to discover gelcoat blisters, albeit most in the ¼-inch range, with a few larger ones. As soon as Minnesota's winter ends (it snowed yesterday, and yes, that would be April 27), I'm ready to start in on that nasty little project. Since I'll not likely ever leave the boat in a slip long-term again, I could probably just leave them, but I hate seeing them and knowing what they mean. Any thoughts on that – best to bite the bullet and get them ground out and properly filled? A few are large enough that I'm looking at an epoxy filler, while others may be fillable with just gelcoat, either laminate or a single application. I'd like to avoid bottom paint, if at all possible.
All the teak is in great need of TLC. Some of it I'll treat, clean, sand and oil (toe rails – hard to do in place, but the prospect of pulling them hasn't entertained me yet), while other pieces will be replaced (top rails, hatchboards). I'm not getting any younger and I have to account for the value of my time, which is also limited during any given period.
The fiberglass outboard motor bracket deteriorated and broke away on one side – the motor shaft had been left down in the water, and I suppose the constant wave-rocking over years' time just eventually fatigued the glass -- so I'll be removing that and, likely, replacing it with an adjustable bracket, so that I'm not dragging the prop while sailing.
Sealant around the mast step and the through-wiring for the masthead light had shrunk, permitting moisture to drip down onto the largest cabin cushion, with damage sufficient to require replacement. If any of you have the name of whoever makes these (or did), I'd appreciate the info. Otherwise, I'll start casting about for a local outfit to try to copy them.
"Shenanigans" will be back on the water (rivers and inland lakes, Minnesota) by mid-June, likely, ready for another quarter-century's run. I have a photo of it on the trailer just a few years ago, before it went south, and – then nearly 20 years old -- she looked about as good as when first shipped up here by Montgomery. I'm 100% sure I can bring her back to life, if not to Bristol shape, then at least to turn heads again the way she used to.
Nice to find this list.
Cheers, from Stillwater, Minnesota
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