Hi Irv, My M15 had the normal fixed mount for the outboard, and after a few seasons dragging the foot of the outboard on a starboard tack, I finally decided to put in a lift mount - as per all the positive comments on the M-list. I picked the Fulton Model MB17100134, which is the one with the lift springs. I had to make some modifications to the outboard mounting plate to get it to fit my Honda 2 HP the way I wanted it to work: i.e., I cut off some of the top of the plate to lower the motor. To do the job properly, make up some 1/4 inch plywood templates of the model outboard you intend to use: You need the propeller line at the bottom; the outboard mounting bracket location, and then you can start playing with the location of the lift mount on the stern. It's a lot easier just holding the lift mount and the 1/4 inch plywood mock-up of the outboard, than trying to juggle both the mount and a real outboard while trying to make pencil marks as to the proper mounting location. Of course, if you have some well muscled help available, then you can skip the mock-up step, but the mock-up does make for less sweat and greater conviction that you have the right spot! After rereading your message, I gave you the answer to a non-asked question. You ask, what kind of outboard? The first part of the answer is a 4 stroke outboard. Why? No mixing oil and gasoline for a fuel; 4 cycles run cleaner and more reliably (no fouled spark plugs, which 2 cycles do with annoying regularity - and always at the worst possible times); better fuel consumption; and they meet all EPA regulations, which will gradually limit or eliminate 2 cycle outboards. As to Model: Most of us on the M list have had excellent experience with Honda motors. You would most likely want about a 4 HP motor for an M17, and they come with Forward, Neutral and Reverse - which is what you need for getting in and out of slips and Marinas. My 2 HP Honda pushed Eugene's M17 up the Thames River against an outgoing tide, with a yawlboat alongside, and three people in the M17; so a 2 HP will do the job, but 4 HP is probably the better choice. You'll need input from the other M17 owners as to their preferences - they have the actual experience. The other question is long shaft or sort shaft. My Honda is a short shaft and I find it works very well. If you are in a real seaway, with someone on the bow changing down a headsail, then the long shaft might be the better choice, but that depends on your sailing area; do you want to motor when you could be sailing? You need M17 input for those answers. Connie
There is an owners survey listing outboard preferences on the MSOG web site, at http://msog.org/cfmods/outboards.cfm. If you haven't submitted your thoughts on your preference, please contribute to the survey, The entry page can be accessed from the url above. Doug At 11:04 AM 8/1/02 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Irv,
My M15 had the normal fixed mount for the outboard, and after a few seasons dragging the foot of the outboard on a starboard tack, I finally decided to put in a lift mount - as per all the positive comments on the M-list.
I picked the Fulton Model MB17100134, which is the one with the lift springs.
I had to make some modifications to the outboard mounting plate to get it to fit my Honda 2 HP the way I wanted it to work: i.e., I cut off some of the top of the plate to lower the motor.
To do the job properly, make up some 1/4 inch plywood templates of the model outboard you intend to use:
You need the propeller line at the bottom; the outboard mounting bracket location, and then you can start playing with the location of the lift mount on the stern. It's a lot easier just holding the lift mount and the 1/4 inch plywood mock-up of the outboard, than trying to juggle both the mount and a real outboard while trying to make pencil marks as to the proper mounting location.
Of course, if you have some well muscled help available, then you can skip the mock-up step, but the mock-up does make for less sweat and greater conviction that you have the right spot!
After rereading your message, I gave you the answer to a non-asked question. You ask, what kind of outboard?
The first part of the answer is a 4 stroke outboard. Why? No mixing oil and gasoline for a fuel; 4 cycles run cleaner and more reliably (no fouled spark plugs, which 2 cycles do with annoying regularity - and always at the worst possible times); better fuel consumption; and they meet all EPA regulations, which will gradually limit or eliminate 2 cycle outboards.
As to Model: Most of us on the M list have had excellent experience with Honda motors. You would most likely want about a 4 HP motor for an M17, and they come with Forward, Neutral and Reverse - which is what you need for getting in and out of slips and Marinas.
My 2 HP Honda pushed Eugene's M17 up the Thames River against an outgoing tide, with a yawlboat alongside, and three people in the M17; so a 2 HP will do the job, but 4 HP is probably the better choice.
You'll need input from the other M17 owners as to their preferences - they have the actual experience.
The other question is long shaft or sort shaft. My Honda is a short shaft and I find it works very well. If you are in a real seaway, with someone on the bow changing down a headsail, then the long shaft might be the better choice, but that depends on your sailing area; do you want to motor when you could be sailing? You need M17 input for those answers.
Connie
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