Thanks, Bob and others, for these helpful replies. (I should also pass on a particular thanks to Dave Scobie, the man who knows everything, for patient assistance by email ever since he made the mistake of being kind to a curious thirtysomething at the 2016 Annapolis Show and, fatally, handing over a poster that made wrinkleboats sink deep into the wrinkles of my brain.) I'll proceed with caution using the tips you've mentioned, and have now heard off list that at least one owner of a boat that presented this particular challenge was able to remove overlying characters without damaging the cove stripe at all, but am glad to know of this useful product to replace the original colored tape, or even to change the whole look of the boat if so desired. Hope to get some Eastern Montgomery gatherings together before long; Brad and I will use our strategic location in the Keystone state to be the keystone of our greater union. And now to try out one of those nifty sailor signatures for the first time... -Will Coleman M15 #669 "Aino"
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:04:58 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Success! Message-ID: <CY4PR17MB197501AB815F6F491F59FD21B7AC0@CY4PR17MB1975.namprd 17.prod.outlook.com>
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BOB here.....:-)
We use Boat Striping Tape (vinyl) from West Marine, both Seafit and West Marine brand. The tape looks awesome and lasts more than 10 years.
Plan B. Buy a roll for $48 bucks and using a heat gun, remove the old tape, clean with Acetone and apply the new tape. Some colors have a clear Film that you remove And peel back after the new tape is applied. If you?re a Klutz like me hire a striping pro guy ($80 about) to apply the tape and make it perfect.
Removing numbers that are over a color strip you can carefully heat up with a heat gun And using your wife?s fingernail carefully peal the numbers off. Use plastic or wood, never metal. If that fails go to Plan B.
Be well Bob
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On Mar 27, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI Mboaters - this boat has a STICKER as a cove stripe ... using a scraper, any type, or a heat gun to _remove_ anything stuck to the cove stripe will likely cause damage. BOB needs to provide suggestion as Bob knows the type of 'sticker' used as the cove stripe and its properties and ways to minimize damage when removing the current registration and name lettering.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ < http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Charlie Fortner <charlie@rentrof.net> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 14:07, Burton Lowry wrote:
I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge.
I've had good success with a heat gun, too.
I like to use the plastic scraper blades in my razor holder. Like this: https://scraperite.com/plastic-blades-guide/use
I'm less likely to screw up the underlying surface with a plastic blade.
Charlie
-- Charlie Fortner M-15 #411 Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta
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Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:02:16 -0400 From: <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Success! Message-ID: <041701d3c606$860d2c30$92278490$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Yes, careful use of a heat gun should work. Just soften the letters and you should be able to peel them off with your finger nails. In this case, I would avoid using any tools. As they peel off, they probably will leave most or all of the adhesive behind. Remove this with 3M adhesive remover, which will kill a few brain cells but will not harm the vinyl stripe. The stripe probably will be quite faded relative to the areas that were covered by the letters. Hopefully you can hide most of that with the new letters.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Burton Lowry Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Success!
Congratulations!
I've gotten off a lot of old vinyl lettering by heating them gently with a heat gun. Once they are warm--they don't need to be hot, be very careful and get a razor blade under an edge. They should peel right off.
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On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:00 AM, William Coleman <williamlcoleman@gmail.com
wrote:
I wrote to the list two weeks ago in a last ditch effort to find an M15 a reasonable distance from Philadelphia after all other methods failed. With thanks to all the friendly folks who replied on and off list with potential East Coast boats and helpful advice, I have now concluded the purchase from a list member of #669, a pristine 2012 model that will be re-christened "Aino" after a character in Finnish mythology. Hooray! After some dry land rigging practice, I'm looking forward to daysails on the Delaware River, meetups with the one other PA M15 person I've found so far, Brad K of #656, at Lake Nockamixon, building up to some multi-day cruises on the Upper Chesapeake and beyond. If there are any other wrinkleboaters around, do get in touch and
we can form a li'l fleet.
While I'm writing, maybe someone on the list will have some pertinent experience for a looming question: the best way to remove vinyl characters (both reg numbers and previous boat name) that have been applied directly to the blue vinyl top stripe this recent Nor'Sea model came with from the factory to its previous owner? I'm hoping the characters directly on the gelcoat on the stern will be easier but am concerned about damaging the attractive stripe in the process of updating the boat's identity. Has anyone had success with this already
before I start experimenting?
Thanks, Will
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Message: 6 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 03:37:03 +0000 From: Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Bottom paint Message-ID: <CAA3iV0LaedvvViDu19QSqvo53Lw=fvdWD9dvMFgff9HGk5iJZg@mail.gm ail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
If you use VC17 you can't use any other bottom paint over it. It all has to be completely stripped before applying a different paint. VC17 is worthless in salt water, lots of fresh water sailors like it though. Mark Dvorscak (salt water sailor who had to strip and re-paint his M17)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 23:03 Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Small boat skippers, Is applying bottom paint necessary after sealing the hull with Inta....2000? I am keeping the Monty 17 in a fresh water lake this year.
Tom B. Monty 17, "AS-IS"
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Message: 7 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 23:56:39 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Bottom paint Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWHWjzigyq4fyNJTnCh8AL0iwDi2SL3aoV6Kk4ZZfC=uQ@mail.gm ail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Good to know, Mark. Thanks. Tom
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 10:37 PM, Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> wrote:
If you use VC17 you can't use any other bottom paint over it. It all has to be completely stripped before applying a different paint. VC17 is worthless in salt water, lots of fresh water sailors like it though. Mark Dvorscak (salt water sailor who had to strip and re-paint his M17)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 23:03 Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Small boat skippers, Is applying bottom paint necessary after sealing the hull with Inta....2000? I am keeping the Monty 17 in a fresh water lake this year.
Tom B. Monty 17, "AS-IS"
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