Hi George, When I first read your letter, I thought you might have seen my pale yellow M17 which I've sailed with the Northwest Potters several times this summer. However, I've only sailed in Washington and Oregon this year, so it must be someone else. I solo rig, launch, and sail my 17 regularly and think it is the best boat available for this kind of sailing. It is faster than the Potters and so strong and seaworthy that you'll feel comfortable taking this boat anywhere and in almost any kind of weather. The 15 is a little easier to tow and launch, but is much smaller in every way. It also is a very good boat, but if you like the size of cockpit you had on the C22, or plan on taking more than 1 passenger, I would recommend the 17. Larry Yake M17, #200 Tullamore On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:17:02 -0700 G Burmeyer <burmeyer@sbcglobal.net> writes: Hi, Having recently and reluctantly parted with an old Catalina 22, I have been looking around for something smaller, easier to pull, store and single-hand, but strong enough to handle some stiff wind. My ideal boat would be easy to rig off the trailer, have a cabin/interior large enough for an overnight or two and be fun to sail. I live in Santa Rosa, Ca, which is within an hour of San Francisco Bay, Tomales Bay and Clear Lake and I want to be able to sail on all of them safely and without a lot of fuss. One day this summer, while sailing out of Richmond Bay Marina, I spotted a really pretty little lap-strake boat (I think it had a pale yellow hull) that was among a small fleet of West Wight Potters in the harbor. At first I thought it was a new kind of Potter. Finally, after searching the net for a while...discovered that what I had seen was a Montgomery (15 or 17? DonÂt know?). So... Here I am, wondering if I have found the kind of boat IÂve been looking for. Joining this list is, hopefully, a first step for me to find out. I subscribed to a C22 list after I bought my old Catalina and found it immensely useful and entertaining, but often wished I had subscribed before buying the boat: might have ducked some issues (rusty cast iron swing keels are a real pain!). IÂll browse the archive and ask some questions and see what happens... Hope this wasnÂt too long-winded... -- George Burmeyer, currently boatless Santa Rosa, CA
New to List Has anyone on the list who has the older M17's tri-color masthead navigation lights moved them to the deck or hull? I don't know if I can describe this without a diagram, but I was thinking a convenenient arrangement might be vertical-mount sidelights, located in the farthest upper aft corners of the cabin trunk. Because the cabin-trunk is higher and wider as it leads aft, I think this location would be plenty visible. I was thinking standard light model #281147 (Perko), or LED #2099091 (Perko) in the West Marine catalog might be attractive, unobtrusive options. Does anyone have an opinion? Would it be difficult to lead the wiring to a v-berth bulkhead mounted panel? Aesthetics are very important to me, so does anyone think the cabin-trunk location for the lights might be obtrusive? Thanks!
Has anyone on the list who has the older M17's tri-color masthead navigation lights moved them to the deck or hull? I don't know if I can describe this without a diagram, but I was thinking a convenenient arrangement might be vertical-mount sidelights, located in the farthest upper aft corners of the cabin trunk. Because the cabin-trunk is higher and wider as it leads aft, I think this location would be plenty visible. I was thinking standard light model #281147 (Perko), or LED #2099091 (Perko) in the West Marine catalog might be attractive, unobtrusive options. Does anyone have an opinion? Would it be difficult to lead the wiring to a v-berth bulkhead mounted panel? Aesthetics are very important to me, so does anyone think the cabin-trunk location for the lights might be obtrusive? Thanks!
I have an 86 M17 that came with a non-functioning masthead tricolor. We just completely rewired the mast, adding a vhf cable and combination foredeck/steaming light just below the spreaders. I opted to keep the masthead for visibility but had to add deck level nav lights to keep in compliance. We used an aquasignal bi-color light hanging off the bow pulpit. This looks neat and still has excellent visibility. A stern light was added on the transom upper starboard corner. We led the wires through the bow pulpit and drilled a hole in the rear starboard bow pulpit base (exactly in the middle). This wire exits in the cabin and is then led forward for about a foot or so, through a hole in the forepeak above the access plate, and then down underneath the forward berth, along the starboard side and to the electric panel. Aesthetics is important to us also and we covered the wire in a section of white, slitted shroud cover material available at West Marine. We found that the trick to the wiring was being able to secure it properly. We started out using plastic self stick 3M pads about an inch square to which you affix the a plastic clamp that holds the wire. The pads didn't hold. We ended up removing the pads, scuffing the surface of the fiberglass and the pad with a dremel tool, and then epoxying the pad base. Don't waste your time with self stick pads. Epoxy in place is the way to go. We also rewired the entire boat, added an AGM 105 amp battery, Solar Panel, Blue Seas panel with voltmeter, Blue Seas fuse box, main switch, 12 volt outlet, bilge pump switch, LED cabin lights, VHF radio and ran the wiring for the Tillerpilot coming soon (early Xmas present). The Blue Seas products are excellent (I believe this is what Bob Eeg uses on the new Montgomerys). If anyone has questions on any of this, I'd be glad to elaborate. I'll try to post some pictures soon. My brother, who is a Fed Ex Airplane mechanic, was very meticulous in doing all the wiring. I was fortunate to have him. Maria M-17 "Halcyon" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: M_Boats: Running Lights
New to List Has anyone on the list who has the older M17's tri-color masthead navigation lights moved them to the deck or hull?
I don't know if I can describe this without a diagram, but I was thinking a convenenient arrangement might be vertical-mount sidelights, located in the farthest upper aft corners of the cabin trunk. Because the cabin-trunk is higher and wider as it leads aft, I think this location would be plenty visible. I was thinking standard light model #281147 (Perko), or LED #2099091 (Perko) in the West Marine catalog might be attractive, unobtrusive options.
Does anyone have an opinion? Would it be difficult to lead the wiring to a v-berth bulkhead mounted panel? Aesthetics are very important to me, so does anyone think the cabin-trunk location for the lights might be obtrusive?
Thanks!
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Excellent info, Maria, thanks. I WOULD like to see those pics. --Craig, chonshell@ia4u.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Jorge" <mcjorge@bellsouth.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: Running Lights I have an 86 M17 that came with a non-functioning masthead tricolor. We just completely rewired the mast, adding a vhf cable and combination foredeck/steaming light just below the spreaders. I opted to keep the masthead for visibility but had to add deck level nav lights to keep in compliance. We used an aquasignal bi-color light hanging off the bow pulpit. This looks neat and still has excellent visibility. A stern light was added on the transom upper starboard corner. We led the wires through the bow pulpit and drilled a hole in the rear starboard bow pulpit base (exactly in the middle). This wire exits in the cabin and is then led forward for about a foot or so, through a hole in the forepeak above the access plate, and then down underneath the forward berth, along the starboard side and to the electric panel. Aesthetics is important to us also and we covered the wire in a section of white, slitted shroud cover material available at West Marine. We found that the trick to the wiring was being able to secure it properly. We started out using plastic self stick 3M pads about an inch square to which you affix the a plastic clamp that holds the wire. The pads didn't hold. We ended up removing the pads, scuffing the surface of the fiberglass and the pad with a dremel tool, and then epoxying the pad base. Don't waste your time with self stick pads. Epoxy in place is the way to go. We also rewired the entire boat, added an AGM 105 amp battery, Solar Panel, Blue Seas panel with voltmeter, Blue Seas fuse box, main switch, 12 volt outlet, bilge pump switch, LED cabin lights, VHF radio and ran the wiring for the Tillerpilot coming soon (early Xmas present). The Blue Seas products are excellent (I believe this is what Bob Eeg uses on the new Montgomerys). If anyone has questions on any of this, I'd be glad to elaborate. I'll try to post some pictures soon. My brother, who is a Fed Ex Airplane mechanic, was very meticulous in doing all the wiring. I was fortunate to have him. Maria M-17 "Halcyon" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Running Lights Has anyone on the list who has the older M17's tri-color masthead navigation lights moved them to the deck or hull? I don't know if I can describe this without a diagram, but I was thinking a convenenient arrangement might be vertical-mount sidelights, located in the farthest upper aft corners of the cabin trunk. Because the cabin-trunk is higher and wider as it leads aft, I think this location would be plenty visible. I was thinking standard light model #281147 (Perko), or LED #2099091 (Perko) in the West Marine catalog might be attractive, unobtrusive options. Does anyone have an opinion? Would it be difficult to lead the wiring to a v-berth bulkhead mounted panel? Aesthetics are very important to me, so does anyone think the cabin-trunk location for the lights might be obtrusive? Thanks!
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