Well my Honda 8HP was stolen about a month ago and I am considering replacement motors for my M-23. I would be interested in hearing what HP motors others are using and how happy they are with it. I am considering a 6HP and a 9.9HP 4 stroke long shaft. The 6 would be nicer as it is much lighter and I could bring it home instead of leaving it on the boat to be stolen again. The 9.9 would have more power, but it would be difficult to move each sailing session due to the weight. Any suggestions? Thanks. Jeff _____ 73 de AC6KW <mailto:jeff@grudin.net> Jeff Grudin, DVM Web Add: http://www.grudin.net Ocean Animal Clinic / Cat Clinic of Santa Cruz - Santa Cruz, California Montgomery 23 Hull #072 Norcal QRP * QRP-L * ARS * AR Qrp --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 12/30/2003
Hi, Jeff I suppose I would base my choice on where/how I did my sailing. Since Busca goes all over and can potentially have to do an all-day motor (in the event of no wind + gotta get back to work) I opted to round UP on the power instead of down. If I were retired (i.e. no schedule) and just sailed in the Chesapeake (mostly soft bottom) I'm sure I could have lived with just the two hp outboard and saved weight and fuel and $ and perhaps my back. My sister's 22' S2 (>3,000#) is equipped with a 9.9. My Tartan 26 (5,200#) has a 5 hp gas inboard. In the spring, instead of messing with the inboard, I'm thinking I'll strap my 5 hp Honda onto the transom and see how well she does. My guess is I'll want to go with an 8 hp since many of the Tartans went to 7 hp... So....I guess what I'm saying is that I wouldn't be afraid to go with 6 hp on an M23 if my situation were something like in the second paragraph but just to be sure, is there any chance you can borrow a buddy's outboard to see how well she does? Tod -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Grudin Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:27 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Motor for the 23 Well my Honda 8HP was stolen about a month ago and I am considering replacement motors for my M-23. I would be interested in hearing what HP motors others are using and how happy they are with it. I am considering a 6HP and a 9.9HP 4 stroke long shaft. The 6 would be nicer as it is much lighter and I could bring it home instead of leaving it on the boat to be stolen again. The 9.9 would have more power, but it would be difficult to move each sailing session due to the weight. Any suggestions? Thanks. Jeff _____ 73 de AC6KW <mailto:jeff@grudin.net> Jeff Grudin, DVM Web Add: http://www.grudin.net Ocean Animal Clinic / Cat Clinic of Santa Cruz - Santa Cruz, California Montgomery 23 Hull #072 Norcal QRP * QRP-L * ARS * AR Qrp --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 12/30/2003 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Jeff, The M23 I just purchased came with an old Evinrude 9.9 2 stroke. I haven't had an opportunity to use it yet. I have a 5hp Nissan on my M17 and judging from the performance of the 5 horse and the weight difference I would think that the 6 horse would be too small except for calm waters or marina maneuvering only. Why not consider one of the new more efficient 2 strokes? They meet California emissions requirements and they are lighter than the 4 strokes. Let us know what you finally decide. Mark Dvorscak M17 Grace M23 unnamed -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of Jeff Grudin Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:27 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Motor for the 23 Well my Honda 8HP was stolen about a month ago and I am considering replacement motors for my M-23. I would be interested in hearing what HP motors others are using and how happy they are with it. I am considering a 6HP and a 9.9HP 4 stroke long shaft. The 6 would be nicer as it is much lighter and I could bring it home instead of leaving it on the boat to be stolen again. The 9.9 would have more power, but it would be difficult to move each sailing session due to the weight. Any suggestions? Thanks. Jeff _____ 73 de AC6KW <mailto:jeff@grudin.net> Jeff Grudin, DVM Web Add: http://www.grudin.net Ocean Animal Clinic / Cat Clinic of Santa Cruz - Santa Cruz, California Montgomery 23 Hull #072 Norcal QRP * QRP-L * ARS * AR Qrp --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 12/30/2003 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
You may find you'll be happy with that old Evinrude, Mark. The best-running outboard I've ever used is a friend's 1970's-era Evinrude 6-horse 2-stroke . . . I'm amazed by how much quieter and smoother it is compared to my Nissan 4-horse 4-stroke. The Evinrude is also very reliable and easy to start. I value the environmental friendliness and freedom from fuel/oil mixing of the Nissan, but I am very impressed with my friend's Evinrude. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:59 AM Subject: Motor for the 23 Jeff, The M23 I just purchased came with an old Evinrude 9.9 2 stroke. I haven't had an opportunity to use it yet. I have a 5hp Nissan on my M17 and judging from the performance of the 5 horse and the weight difference I would think that the 6 horse would be too small except for calm waters or marina maneuvering only. Why not consider one of the new more efficient 2 strokes? They meet California emissions requirements and they are lighter than the 4 strokes. Let us know what you finally decide. Mark Dvorscak M17 Grace M23 unnamed
Jeff: My Neptune 24 (3200 lb. displacement empty) handles well with a 5 hp 2-stroke Suzuki. If I repowered it I would go with a 4-stroke and consider a Honda 8 hp because it has 2 cylinders and so I would guess would run smoother that the 1-cylinder Honda 5 hp. --Gary Hyde M15 #235 'Vanilla' N24 'Sailabration' On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 04:27 PM, Jeff Grudin wrote:
Well my Honda 8HP was stolen about a month ago and I am considering replacement motors for my M-23.
I would be interested in hearing what HP motors others are using and how happy they are with it.
I am considering a 6HP and a 9.9HP 4 stroke long shaft. The 6 would be nicer as it is much lighter and I could bring it home instead of leaving it on the boat to be stolen again. The 9.9 would have more power, but it would be difficult to move each sailing session due to the weight.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Jeff
_____ 73 de AC6KW <mailto:jeff@grudin.net> Jeff Grudin, DVM Web Add: http://www.grudin.net
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