Tom, Thanks for the clarification re: opinions. Yep everyone has them. Good straight info is always a good thing. And anyone has the right to share facts where and when and with whomever appropriate, as well as opinions when identified as such. But it really helps to keep in mind the context of a conversation or post and the venue of such and not take it another direction than it is going or intended to go, so as not to be inflammatory on a known sore spot. I have battled this exact issue to exhaustion within the HPPC until I put my foot down and ended it. It will literally suck the life out of an event and polarize an otherwise cohesive group into two camps. Nothing and I truly mean nothing could be more detrimental to our sport. I have seen it first hand. Some just cannot see that. I'm just a participant here , same as you, but one thing I know is that going negative impacts participation. No one likes conflict or feeling awkward. Myself included. That's why I speak up immediately if I see a post I made being replied to and going down that road. Thanks for the clarification and reply. Hopefully you can come on out and join us in Havasu this Feb. If you like Montys, and you obviously do :-), there will be lots of them here ( as well as just about every other make and model you can shake a stick at). Come , join us.... Let's sail. :-) that's where it's at. :-) Sent from my HTC One on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network Sent from my HTC One on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network