That makes sense, Connie . . . I did, however, tie my M17 to a tree overnight on a very rocky beach in Lake Huron . . . I used the bow mooring cleat, so the bow was pointed toward the beach . . . But first, I made-fast an anchor off the stern . . . The boat was in very shallow water, shallow enough that two friends and I carried gear ashore for an overnight campout . . . I've seen pics of boats that were cruising Lake Huron's North Channel, secured to shore this very same way. However, Lake Huron, in season, is usually calmer than the ocean, I would imagine (in a storm, or off season, all bets are off). My boat rode out the night in that shallow water, and the hull never touched the rocks. Another difference: The Great Lakes don't have ides. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: <chbenneck@juno.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Inflatable Dinghy's Hi Craig, I guess the answer to your question boils down to: is it an absolute flat calm - no water motion at all; in which case you could go up to the shore in an M15 and step off. However, if there is any sort of wave action caused by wind; PWCs, motor boats; Canada geese taking off and landing; then the bow of the M15 is going to subject to unnecessary wear - to put it mildly - bouncing up an down on the shore. If it is a sandy shore; probably OK. If it is a rocky shore: No way Jose! .............unless you are willing to suffer gel coat and hull damage. If I anchor out. Boat can move all it wants, in it's element. I row ashore with dinghy, and then carry dinghy up the beach / or rocks / to get it away from the wave action. M15 doesn't get damaged / dinghy might get damaged, over time, but I built it, so I can fix it too. Connie _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats