Jerry, I'm using a CDI FF2 furler on my M-17. It's simple and works beautifully with both my working jib and 150. This is the first boat I've owned with a furler and wouldn't want to be without one now. They're very handy, especially for single handing. Bob Campbell Montgomery 17 #615 "Alina" Lodi, CA
I put the wrong hull number when I regs how do I change it on my registration. Also would like more info on the jib furling for the M-17.
Does the CDI allow reefing as well as furling? M17ers: Do you recommend a 150% or 155% jib with the CDI? ----- Original Message ----- From: <racsrv@attbi.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: wrong boat number Jerry, I'm using a CDI FF2 furler on my M-17. It's simple and works beautifully with both my working jib and 150. This is the first boat I've owned with a furler and wouldn't want to be without one now. They're very handy, especially for single handing. Bob Campbell Montgomery 17 #615 "Alina" Lodi, CA -------------------------------------------------- I put the wrong hull number when I regs how do I change it on my registration. Also would like more info on the jib furling for the M-17.
I'm using a 150 on my CDI Furler mainly because I've been told some races limit you to a 150 instead of a 155 (not that I that big a racer). I find the CDI furler does a good job of reefing. I have foam in the luff on my 150 which helps the sail maintain its shape when reefed. This time of year in San Francisco Bay I use my working jib as there is usually a pretty fair amount of breeze particularly near the Golden Gate in the afternoon. Bob Campbell -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:54 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: CDI Furler Does the CDI allow reefing as well as furling? M17ers: Do you recommend a 150% or 155% jib with the CDI? ----- Original Message ----- From: <racsrv@attbi.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: wrong boat number Jerry, I'm using a CDI FF2 furler on my M-17. It's simple and works beautifully with both my working jib and 150. This is the first boat I've owned with a furler and wouldn't want to be without one now. They're very handy, especially for single handing. Bob Campbell Montgomery 17 #615 "Alina" Lodi, CA -------------------------------------------------- I put the wrong hull number when I regs how do I change it on my registration. Also would like more info on the jib furling for the M-17. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hello Bob and others with CDI furlers, could you run thru the progression of reducing sail on your M17? when going from a reefed 150 to the working jib do you change sails on the water as the winds are increasing or make the decision on which sail to use at the dock? how many reefs do you have in the main and when are these tied in as you reduce the genoa/jib? we are thinking about getting new sails and furler and have no experience with winds above about 15 knots...so far we have just carried on with our working jib and full main. RAIL DOWN!! thanks, ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025
Ron and Cathryn, As far a reefing on my CDI furler, I just pay out the jib sheet and haul in the reefing line as tension (or lack thereof) allows. As far as making sail changes, I generally check the weather and make the determination which sail to fly prior to launching. This time of the year in S.F. Bay, it's usually my working jib. The 150 can be reefed but I tend to get carried away, particularly off the wind, and show more sail than prudent. By running the working jib, I avoid the temptation of flying too much of the 150 and the risk of blowing it out. That said, I don't think it would be too difficult to change the jib while underway, depending on the conditions, of course. In case you're not familiar with how CDI headsails are attached, there is a small bolt rope on the luff that is fed into a track on the furler extrusion very much like a main sail bolt rope is fed into the track on your mast. Bob Campbell Montgomery 17 #615 "Alina" Lodi, CA -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ron and cathryn goodspeed Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 7:30 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: CDI Furler Hello Bob and others with CDI furlers, could you run thru the progression of reducing sail on your M17? when going from a reefed 150 to the working jib do you change sails on the water as the winds are increasing or make the decision on which sail to use at the dock? how many reefs do you have in the main and when are these tied in as you reduce the genoa/jib? we are thinking about getting new sails and furler and have no experience with winds above about 15 knots...so far we have just carried on with our working jib and full main. RAIL DOWN!! thanks, ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
The CDI allows reefing. CDI supplies specific information for your sailmaker to correctly build a sail that will hold a reasonable shape when partially furled. I would go with a 150 if the prevailing winds in your home waters are consistently light (you can't furl a 150 down to a storm jib). The first sail I had built was a 135 made from a heavy Dacron cloth. I frequently encounter wind conditions of 20 knots or more and didn't want to risk blowing out a 150 that I would have made out of a lighter fabric. Next year I may order a 150 and change headsails before leaving the dock as conditions warrant (it's not that difficult to change sails on the CDI). Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 GRACE
Am I reading into your responses that a 150% makes more sense than a 155%, unless I live in an area with only light winds? Can anyone write knowledgeably about a fully-battened main? Is it substantially more expensive? Does it have a performance advantage? Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: CDI Furler The CDI allows reefing. CDI supplies specific information for your sailmaker to correctly build a sail that will hold a reasonable shape when partially furled. I would go with a 150 if the prevailing winds in your home waters are consistently light (you can't furl a 150 down to a storm jib). The first sail I had built was a 135 made from a heavy Dacron cloth. I frequently encounter wind conditions of 20 knots or more and didn't want to risk blowing out a 150 that I would have made out of a lighter fabric. Next year I may order a 150 and change headsails before leaving the dock as conditions warrant (it's not that difficult to change sails on the CDI). Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 GRACE ------------------------------ Bob Campbell <racsrv@attbi.com> I'm using a 150 on my CDI Furler mainly because I've been told some races limit you to a 150 instead of a 155 (not that I'm that big a racer). I find the CDI furler does a good job of reefing. I have foam in the luff on my 150 which helps the sail maintain its shape when reefed. This time of year in San Francisco Bay I use my working jib as there is usually a pretty fair amount of breeze particularly near the Golden Gate in the afternoon. Bob Campbell _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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