Irv, Try this. Leave about 2 inches of slack in the pendant and then secure it to the winch and cleat it off. Then stand in the companionway and jump up and down on the bilge just forward of the trunk. If the slack comes out of the pendant, repeat the process. Once the board is all the way down, raise it and start all over again. If after two or three "lowerings" of the board, it doesn't work freely, then dive on it with a putty knife and scrape the board as best you can. It worked for me. My board was fouled with leaves and dirt and it just needed to be lowered and raised a couple of times to get all the gunk out. Dan Irv Kooris wrote:

I think the idea is replacing the old boards with a glass leaded one that would fit the older boats. The question I have is how to free my board on Eugene's old boat. He showed me pictures of the board being down and out before he cleaned it. He told me it was taken down and epoxied. I have been unable to free the board since purchasing her. Any ideas? She is in the water. Even with the board up she sails real well. Irv

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of dik lang Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:02 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: colapsing trunk?

I have heard a lot of talk about sticking centerboards and always thought it just due to marine growth and or rust on the board. How can the trunk colapse? How many boats actually suffer from this? It would seem the easiest way to remedy the rust issue would be to drop the board, grind it smooth and coat with epoxy. Why bother with replacing with a glassed lead one (though it does sound totally cool!).

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Never tried the metal rod. The clearance between the pendant and the hole in the trunk is way to small -- less than an 1/8". Moreover, never felt the need to since the jumping up and down did the trick. Dan M-17 #316B Irv Kooris wrote:

Dan, I was thinking about doing that, I am glad to hear it worked for you. Did you ever try to get a metal rod down the hole that the centerboard pennant comes up through and giving it a whack? Irv

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan White Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:42 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: colapsing trunk?

Irv,

Try this. Leave about 2 inches of slack in the pendant and then secure it to the winch and cleat it off. Then stand in the companionway and jump up and down on the bilge just forward of the trunk. If the slack comes out of the pendant, repeat the process. Once the board is all the way down, raise it and start all over again. If after two or three "lowerings" of the board, it doesn't work freely, then dive on it with a putty knife and scrape the board as best you can.

It worked for me. My board was fouled with leaves and dirt and it just needed to be lowered and raised a couple of times to get all the gunk out.

Dan

Irv Kooris wrote:

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I think the idea is replacing the old boards with a glass leaded one that would fit the older boats. The question I have is how to free my board on Eugene's old boat. He showed me pictures of the board being down and out before he cleaned it. He told me it was taken down and epoxied. I have been unable to free the board since purchasing her. Any ideas? She is in the water. Even with the board up she sails real well. Irv

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of dik lang Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:02 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: colapsing trunk?

I have heard a lot of talk about sticking centerboards and always thought it just due to marine growth and or rust on the board. How can the trunk colapse? How many boats actually suffer from this? It would seem the easiest way to remedy the rust issue would be to drop the board, grind it smooth and coat with epoxy. Why bother with replacing with a glassed lead one (though it does sound totally cool!).

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I'm not having any CB problems, but I've often wondered how the keel and CB housing was built. I had thought it might have been a glass keel, with cast iron insert, but the bottom of the keel and opening for the CB trunk sure looks to be metal. And looking up inside the trunk, when you have the CB pulled, it looks like it has some type of wood lining, like plywood in front of iron. But if it is a cast iron keel, how does it attach to the boat? I don't see any seams like a bolted on lead keel has. So I guess what I'm asking is does Jerry or Bob or someone else have a schematic drawing of how the keel/CB trunk was constructed and attached to the boat? And I suppose we are talking the older boats with cast iron weighted keels. Something to help me visualize what is in there, so when Jerry or Bones or somebody is talking about a keel repair, I understand what they are saying. If I understand Bob's current method of construction, he now does have a glassed in keel, and pours lead shot into the keel cavity, then glasses over that. And I've often wondered why we bottom paint the outside of the keel and CB to prevent marine growth, but don't paint the inside of the trunk to the waterline to do the same thing. Could this be a cause of some stuck boards for boats moored on the water? Howard M17, #278

I am terrified of this problem: I thought it was caused by water in the ballast freezing and expanding, which is why it plagues so many boats in the Great Lakes. Is the problem more likely to happen in fresh water or salt? In warm climes or cold? I keep my boat on her trailer: Does this reduce my chances of being afflicted? Is there any way to test for leaks? Any preventive maintenance that can be performed (i.e., reinforce all seams)? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Montgomery" <jmbn@innercite.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: collapsing trunk? I think water has gotten into some of the keels, causing rust, which swells the trunk. The only way another board would help is if, assuming the rust has been stopped, the new boartd was thinner. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "dik lang" <diklang32@hotmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 1:02 PM Subject: collapsing trunk? I have heard a lot of talk about sticking centerboards and always thought it just due to marine growth and or rust on the board. How can the trunk colapse? How many boats actually suffer from this? It would seem the easiest way to remedy the rust issue would be to drop the board, grind it smooth and coat with epoxy. Why bother with replacing with a glassed lead one (though it does sound totally cool!).