Re: M_Boats: anchor kits
A 9lb Danforth (aka the old 8S Danforth) is massive for a 15' boat in soft sand bottoms. A 14lb (aka the old 13S Danforth) will hold a 15'r in 100+ mph hurricanes easily...and probably rip the cleats off before dragging. This may help the perspective...I cruised the Bahamas several years on a 28' x 10,000lb ketch and used 13 standards as working anchors. We typically anchored in sand or 6" high grass and used 8' of chain with 1/2 nylon rodes. We experienced near hurricane winds in open anchorages and the 13 standards never moved an inch. The storm anchor was a 22lb standard Danforth. I also used 22lb standards for working anchors on a 42' x 24,000lb cutter and a 40lb standard for storms. All used in hard or soft sand and grass. The downside of Danforths is you can trip them if the tide or wind changes. I don't own an M15 but thinking for anchors would be two 9lb Danforths, 4'-6' of chain and 3/8" diameter nylon for working anchors. Storm anchor would be a 14S. If you go with a CQR be sure it is the right bottom. I've owned and used them on sand and grass. If they hit a submerged shell or rock it can point the anchor up and make it plow out of the bottom and drag. I saw this more than a few times in the Bahamas and not uncommon. I equate a 25lb plow and 25' of chain as almost equal to a 14lb Danforth and 8' of chain in sandy/grassy bottoms. Bill P.
Bill, I bow to your experience but I no longer rely on a single anchor type. I have had the danforth flip over on me three times now and not reset. Do you anchor with two danforths in the bahamas to avoid the flip over problems? My bad danforth experiences are as follows #1 flip over and loss of holding was due to tide reversal - 1 kt current soft mud bottom. #2 flip over and loss of holding was due to pilot error and wind shifts during a thunderstorm. Pilot error was leaving the CB down which allowed excessive side to side sailing in the strong winds - again soft mud bottom. ( 5 other boats at same location with danforth's did not have a problem) # 3 flip over and loss of holding was due to 180 deg wind shift in thunder storm. I now use a 15 lb CQR for my M15 for any overnight anchoring. This is gross overkill for an M15 and I am almost always dealing with mud bottoms. If I were to buy a new one I would go with a small Bruce anchor anchor for everyday use and a danforth for special purpose. I also carry the reliable danforth and 15 lb coated weight (looks like a mushroom anchor). Do you anchor with two danforths in the bahamas to avoit the flip over problems?
All used in hard or soft sand and grass. The downside of Danforths is you can trip them if the tide or wind changes.
If you go with a CQR be sure it is the right
bottom. I've owned and used them on sand and grass. If they hit a submerged shell or rock it can point the anchor up and make it plow out of the bottom and drag. I saw this more than a few times in the Bahamas and not uncommon. I equate a 25lb plow and 25' of chain as almost equal to a 14lb Danforth and 8' of chain in sandy/grassy bottoms.
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