I need some opinions and experience from all you M-17 folks! Presently I have a Yamaha 4 cycle, 4hp OB on my M-17. While it has plenty of power, it is heavier than hell for this old fart to lug around, interferes with the rudder when I put it hard over and is noisy and its vibration shakes the whole yacht. I am considering re-powering with a 2hp Honda or an electric motor. My wife would prefer an electric motor for the quiet but I am concerned that it won't have sufficient power to push Her (the boat) against a current or any kind of head sea. We mainly use the motor to get in and out of the berth but also want the security of a motor when the wind quits or becomes more than we can handle. What say you all. Regards...Arnold Sharpe, M-17, hull #265, "LITTLE BREEZE"
I spent the weekend with some friends on their Witby 42. We took their dink for some early morning gunkholing. His OB is a Nissan (read Tohatsu) and I couldn't believe how quiet it was. I am planning to get the Tohatsu 6 hp with the 25" long shaft for my soon to be completed M-17. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnold Sharpe" <afsharpe@mac.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: M_Boats: OUTBOARD POWER
I need some opinions and experience from all you M-17 folks! Presently I have a Yamaha 4 cycle, 4hp OB on my M-17. While it has plenty of power, it is heavier than hell for this old fart to lug around, interferes with the rudder when I put it hard over and is noisy and its vibration shakes the whole yacht. I am considering re-powering with a 2hp Honda or an electric motor. My wife would prefer an electric motor for the quiet but I am concerned that it won't have sufficient power to push Her (the boat) against a current or any kind of head sea. We mainly use the motor to get in and out of the berth but also want the security of a motor when the wind quits or becomes more than we can handle. What say you all. Regards...Arnold Sharpe, M-17, hull #265, "LITTLE BREEZE"
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I've wondered if a 2.5 hp Yamaha 4-stroke would be sufficient for my M17. The 2 hp Honda will get you in and out of the marina, and will give you nearly hull speed in calm water (5 knots), but I bought the 4 hp Yamaha for heavy current situations in the San Juan Islands--my 2 cent's worth. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails. Sailing is like "African Queening" thru life. On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Arnold Sharpe wrote:
I need some opinions and experience from all you M-17 folks! Presently I have a Yamaha 4 cycle, 4hp OB on my M-17. While it has plenty of power, it is heavier than hell for this old fart to lug around, interferes with the rudder when I put it hard over and is noisy and its vibration shakes the whole yacht. I am considering re-powering with a 2hp Honda or an electric motor. My wife would prefer an electric motor for the quiet but I am concerned that it won't have sufficient power to push Her (the boat) against a current or any kind of head sea. We mainly use the motor to get in and out of the berth but also want the security of a motor when the wind quits or becomes more than we can handle. What say you all. Regards...Arnold Sharpe, M-17, hull #265, "LITTLE BREEZE"
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Arnold: My boat is powered by an older 4 hp, 2 stroke Johnson Sailmaster. As near as I can tell, they no longer make a motor like this. It's geared down and turns a bigger, slow turning 3 blade prop. Fixed, sliding throttle. It has plenty of power for a fully loaded M17. About 4 knots at around 3/4 throttle. Wide open, 5.3 knots and the stern is squatting. Lots more noise, burns more fuel and not much more speed. Tried a 52# thrust trolling motor. You need an extra battery, so no weight savings and if the battery gives out on you in a pinch, you got problems. I sailed for a few months on just the trolling motor and got away with it until that day it was blowing 30 when my battery was getting weak, and I barely made it into my slip. No way that I could safely short tack 100 yards up a 100' fairway inside the marina in that much wind. If you want to go to a 2 HP, you will probably do fine, with perhaps not enough power on rare occasions....either a strong, foul current or big wind. Most of the 2 HP motors also have the "advantage?" of having an integral fuel tank. If you are just hopping on and off the dock or the trailer, you may not need to carry extra fuel. But also remember, the "Minnow" was just going on a 3 hour cruise. Howard On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Arnold Sharpe wrote:
I need some opinions and experience from all you M-17 folks! Presently I have a Yamaha 4 cycle, 4hp OB on my M-17. While it has plenty of power, it is heavier than hell for this old fart to lug around, interferes with the rudder when I put it hard over and is noisy and its vibration shakes the whole yacht. I am considering re-powering with a 2hp Honda or an electric motor. My wife would prefer an electric motor for the quiet but I am concerned that it won't have sufficient power to push Her (the boat) against a current or any kind of head sea. We mainly use the motor to get in and out of the berth but also want the security of a motor when the wind quits or becomes more than we can handle. What say you all. Regards...Arnold Sharpe, M-17, hull #265, "LITTLE BREEZE"
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