Re: M_Boats: new subscriber
I live in Rockport and have just purchased our 2nd Monty which will live in Maine. The original which is about 20 years old is here in Rockport. I'll bet that the owner will show it to you if you knocked on the door and asked nicely--he did for me. I can look up the address for you if you like. Skip Langley
I have been tossing and turning, trying to decide what my next sailboat will be. I thought for sure I would want something trailable. Not being limited to by neighborhood is a great incentive. I also wanted a daysailor w/ a cabin to spend weekends somewhere. Abig concearn (and I turn to this knowledgable group) is how the boat handles in bay situations when the wind is blowing 20-25 knots as it will be for the next 4-5 months. I was looking at a cape dory typhoon, with its nice heavy shoal keel But they stopped produced in the mid 80's. So there is a big apeal towards newer stronger and lighter materials. I have never sailed either dows anyone have any comparison notes between the CD Typhoon and the 17? ----- Original Message ----- From: <fml162@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:35 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: new subscriber
I live in Rockport and have just purchased our 2nd Monty which will live in Maine. The original which is about 20 years old is here in Rockport. I'll bet that the owner will show it to you if you knocked on the door and asked nicely--he did for me. I can look up the address for you if you like. Skip Langley _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I don't have any experience with the Cape Dory Typhoon but my 1983 M17 (with the working jib or a few wraps on the furler and 1 reef in the main) is a delight to sail in 25 knot winds. I can heave to for a snack with no problem or I can put the rail in the water to try and get my wife wet while she's lounging on the leeward cockpit seat. The M17 inspires great confidence and is just plain fun to sail in a blow. It's also an easily trailered boat. As you can tell, I'm hooked. My wife and I have spent up to a week on the boat and on several occasions have gone for 3 days without setting foot on land. There are other good boats around for sure, but I don't believe that there are any better boats in the same size. Mark Dvorscak M17 Grace M23 Faith
thanks mark, our conditions here are windy to windier to too windy, mostly too windy, a lot of weekends go unsailed. gil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Re: monty vs cape dory typhoon
I don't have any experience with the Cape Dory Typhoon but my 1983 M17 (with the working jib or a few wraps on the furler and 1 reef in the main) is a delight to sail in 25 knot winds. I can heave to for a snack with no problem or I can put the rail in the water to try and get my wife wet while she's lounging on the leeward cockpit seat. The M17 inspires great confidence and is just plain fun to sail in a blow. It's also an easily trailered boat. As you can tell, I'm hooked. My wife and I have spent up to a week on the boat and on several occasions have gone for 3 days without setting foot on land. There are other good boats around for sure, but I don't believe that there are any better boats in the same size.
Mark Dvorscak M17 Grace M23 Faith
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Gilbert, I have owned my M15 for 7 yrs and during that same time I sailed a Cape Dory 25 for a season. I really enjoyed the CD 25 as it sails very well, tracks very well and got me through a 40 - 60 kt line squall in very fine fashion. However I did't keep it because I felt confined by the cruising distances within the Marina area. I also felt restricted by the relatively deep draft 3' per spec but think it was closer to 3'4". The Typhoon is only 2'6" draft. I sailed the M15 in protected waters for three days with the lightest winds around 20 kts and most of the time it was 25 - 30 kts. It handled very well so I went out in the 8 ft seas in Vineyard sound and it handled those quite well too. If I were to be sailing in the SF Bay area I would definitely prefer the M17 over the M15 for the added weight and beam. They are very dry boats but then I didn't find the CD 25 to be "wet". Think how you will actually use the boat and you are likely to end up with M17 for lots of reasons. The M17 cockpit is very comfortable and is a pleasure to daysail in with 3 or 4 people. The CD cockpit design is not nearly as comfortable (I crew on an M17 frequently). The M17 is faster - John Edwards in his M17 could out point me in the CD 25 and had much better boat speed as well. You will enjoy embarrassing the bigger boats :) Thanks, Doug Kelch M15 "Seas the Day" --- Gilbert Landin <gilbert@mindgame.com> wrote:
I have been tossing and turning, trying to decide what my next sailboat will be. I thought for sure I would want something trailable. Not being limited to by neighborhood is a great incentive. I also wanted a daysailor w/ a cabin to spend weekends somewhere. Abig concearn (and I turn to this knowledgable group) is how the boat handles in bay situations when the wind is blowing 20-25 knots as it will be for the next 4-5 months. I was looking at a cape dory typhoon, with its nice heavy shoal keel But they stopped produced in the mid 80's. So there is a big apeal towards newer stronger and lighter materials. I have never sailed either dows anyone have any comparison notes between the CD Typhoon and the 17?
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I know that the Cape Dory Typhoon is not very practical to trailer-sail, and the majority of the owners keep theirs in the water, only hauling them out at the beginning and ends of the seasons. I also know that the Cape Dory Typhoon has a much more cramped cabin. The Cape Dory performs great, but I believe she heels more before stabilizing (which actually sounds fun to me). The long keel on the Typhoon would give her great directional stability, but would probably prevent her from sailing as close to the wind. I believe that, who's the designer, Perry(?), did a comparison of just these two boats in a 2003 issue. And, of course, with the Typhoon's fixed-draft, you can't just raise her centerboard to free yourself up if you ground . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilbert Landin" <gilbert@mindgame.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: monty vs cape dory typhoon I have been tossing and turning, trying to decide what my next sailboat will be. I thought for sure I would want something trailable. Not being limited to by neighborhood is a great incentive. I also wanted a daysailor w/ a cabin to spend weekends somewhere. Abig concearn (and I turn to this knowledgable group) is how the boat handles in bay situations when the wind is blowing 20-25 knots as it will be for the next 4-5 months. I was looking at a cape dory typhoon, with its nice heavy shoal keel But they stopped produced in the mid 80's. So there is a big apeal towards newer stronger and lighter materials. I have never sailed either dows anyone have any comparison notes between the CD Typhoon and the 17?
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