Don is so right. I've never actually lost the gas cap from my Honda 2-hp -- but I have noticed how EASY it is to pull the plastic "retainer" right out of the tank. It doesn't take much of a pull. So I always just pull the cap off and set it down in the boat when re-filling on the water. I don't know if others have the same kind of plastic retainer as I do, but if so, I wouldn't trust it. You'd think they could have done a better job designing it. And yeah, if there is ANY doubt in my mind about how much fuel is left in the tank, I always try to fill it up, or check it at least, before dicey maneuvers near rocks or pilings in heavy weather. BAD time to have your motor quit on you. ____________________O____________ ~~ ~ ~ ~ (\_ ~~ Steve McClellan~~M15~#152~~Chicago

Hi all: Returning from a sail this Sunday (the first time I got to sail "Sweet Dream" with a reef in the main - She sailed like a champ with only the slightest bit of weather helm in the NE 15 Kt wind), as I motored to the dock my Honda 2 HP 4 cycle ran out of gas (you would think that for a thousand bucks they could put in a gas gauge). I was pushing it but singlehanding with the heavy chop, I didn't want to stop and bend over the transom to pour in gas. I took off the gas cap, letting it dangle to the side on the retaining chain and reached for the gas can when the gas cap dropped into the water. The retaining chain came loose. I quickly poured in a pint of gas, wrapped a plastic baggy around the top of the tank and fired her up just before drifting into some pilings. Has anyone else had their Honda gas cap fall off? Don Ludlow M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream

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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:19:26 -0700 From: John Fleming <jfleming1231@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: cloudy compass To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <3F59523E.8050605@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Tom,

Don't despair. There is a product that does the job. It's not cheap, but it works. I believe it can be bought through West Marine. If not West Marine, then I must have got it from Sporty's, an aviation/pilot supply catalog. I used it to restore my Saturn bulkhead compass which was badly scratched, making it almost unusable. After I followed their directions, it brought the compass back to complete clarity.

The product is called Nuvo-Shine Plastic Polishing Kit. The cost stamped on on the side of the box is $30. Here are the other particulars:

www: nuvo-shine.com Address: Squadra Nuvolari, LLC 255 G Street Suite 250 San Diego, CA 92101 619/544-9450

If the compass lens is not too badly scratched or faded, you can try three of Meguiar's products, which you may find at auto parts stores, or once again at West Marine. They are:

Mirror Glaze 18 Clear Plastic Detailer, 17 Clear Plastic Cleaner, 10 Clear Plastic Polish.

I tried these first, and they were unable to work out the deep scratches on my compass lens, so I had to buy the Nuvo-Shine product.

Hope this helps. John Fleming '82 M-17: "Star Cross'd"

Smith, Tom wrote:

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I have a bulkhead mounted compass that's apparently never had a cover on it and it hazy. Is there a plastic polishing compound or method anyone can recommend that might help?

Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar

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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:01:07 -0400 From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Subject: M_Boats: Wet core To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <003001c37433$e2b87780$b963b3cf@ajrogers>

If I understand the literature correctly, if you use the epoxy-fill approach you used for your other fittings, that should solve the problem, whether the core is completely dry in that spot or not. I've read of people drilling a series of small holes, then setting up a suction system to leach out moisture, but it doesn't sound like your situation is serious enough for such a drastic cure. Your 21-days in the sun treatment seems as if it would completely dry the area in question, anyway.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Martin" <jonmartin666@msn.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:47 PM Subject: M_Boats: Wet core

I have an area on the cabin top of my M15 about the size of a silver dollar that has a wet core. There was a fitting screwed on to the cabin top, and I removed it and drilled out the hole, and wet wood came out. I drilled about a half-inch hole, and picked out all that I could get to. Anoyther hole above and one below were dry. I have left these holes open for about three weeks now, in the hot sun (about 95 degrees). Is this enough to sufficiently dry it out? Any ideas on what I might do? I have removed all of the fittings, drilled out the holes and filled with epoxy, then redrilled and replaced each fitting. I only found the one spot that was wet. Thanks, Jon

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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:35:05 EDT From: Derfsails@aol.com Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <93.32a8ee44.2c8b90e9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Mark,

You may want to talk with Bob Eeg, as the 23 I have purchased from him does have a bronze center board. We are scheduled to put the mast up and check the center board this coming Monday then put it in the water on Tuesday.

Fred Shelley derfsails@aol.com