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Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF
Bill, I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge. 10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem. Thanks Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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Hi Doug, Where did you put in and where did you go. I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the M15? Irv
From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise
Bill,
I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge.
10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem.
Thanks
Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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Irv......you didn't read the www.msog.org site? http://www.msog.org/models/m15/m15_vs_c16.cfm Fair winds Bob Irvin Kooris wrote:
Hi Doug, Where did you put in and where did you go. I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the M15? Irv
From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise
Bill,
I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge.
10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem.
Thanks
Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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Bob, I have but I would like another opinion. I want the Monty 17 or 15 but need to continue to look for used one. Unless you want to make a incredible deal!!! Irv
From: Bob <Bobeeg@earthlink.net> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:02:46 -0700 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_15 VS CP 16
Irv......you didn't read the www.msog.org site?
http://www.msog.org/models/m15/m15_vs_c16.cfm
Fair winds Bob
Irvin Kooris wrote:
Hi Doug, Where did you put in and where did you go. I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the M15? Irv
From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise
Bill,
I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge.
10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem.
Thanks
Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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Irv, If you check the archives, Connie has commented on the comparison (he has owned both boats). Busca used to be parked next to a CP16 and she never felt the least bit jealous. Tod -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Irvin Kooris Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:17 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_15 VS CP 16 Bob, I have but I would like another opinion. I want the Monty 17 or 15 but need to continue to look for used one. Unless you want to make a incredible deal!!! Irv
From: Bob <Bobeeg@earthlink.net> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:02:46 -0700 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_15 VS CP 16
Irv......you didn't read the www.msog.org site?
http://www.msog.org/models/m15/m15_vs_c16.cfm
Fair winds Bob
Irvin Kooris wrote:
Hi Doug, Where did you put in and where did you go. I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the M15? Irv
From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise
Bill,
I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge.
10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem.
Thanks
Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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Irv, I have made 2 MA cruises - and will be making the third in two weeks. The first cruise as an attempt to go from Hyannis to Nantucket - got bottled up in Hyannis waiting for a slow hurricane to pass by. After 3 days of sailing around Hyannis Harbor and Hyannisport in 25 - 30 kts of wind I pulled out and went to Pleasant Bay for another 4 days. The second cruise I made it from Hyannis to Tuckernuck/Nantucket and had an ideal cruise. (except I lost the CenterBoard on that trip) The next trip is Aug 20th 2004 - Fairhaven Ma to Edgartown via Woods Hole. I hope to see you out there soon. As for the CP 16 I don't have an personal experience but Al (Of Chesapeake Bay Cruise fame)traded off a Compac to get into an older M17 and wouldn't go back. He feels the M17 is far superior to the CP 19. ( I think that is what he had). Thanks Doug --- Irvin Kooris <kooris@rcn.com> wrote:
Hi Doug, Where did you put in and where did you go. I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the M15? Irv
From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise
Bill,
I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge.
10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem.
Thanks
Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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Could you tell us how you lost your centerboard, & do you have a 15 or a 17? Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Kelch" <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: bottom paint - short cruise
Irv,
I have made 2 MA cruises - and will be making the third in two weeks.
The first cruise as an attempt to go from Hyannis to Nantucket - got bottled up in Hyannis waiting for a slow hurricane to pass by. After 3 days of sailing around Hyannis Harbor and Hyannisport in 25 - 30 kts of wind I pulled out and went to Pleasant Bay for another 4 days.
The second cruise I made it from Hyannis to Tuckernuck/Nantucket and had an ideal cruise. (except I lost the CenterBoard on that trip)
The next trip is Aug 20th 2004 - Fairhaven Ma to Edgartown via Woods Hole.
I hope to see you out there soon.
As for the CP 16 I don't have an personal experience but Al (Of Chesapeake Bay Cruise fame)traded off a Compac to get into an older M17 and wouldn't go back. He feels the M17 is far superior to the CP 19. ( I think that is what he had).
Thanks
Doug --- Irvin Kooris <kooris@rcn.com> wrote:
Hi Doug, Where did you put in and where did you go. I trust you had a good trip. A question how do you compare a CP16 to the M15? Irv
From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: bottom pain - short cruise
Bill,
I cruiseded my M15 in salt water on Buzzards Bay for two weeks with no bottom paint. The barnacles were the size of small grains of sand and came off with a sponge.
10 Days in the FL Keys - smaller barnacles - no problem.
Thanks
Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- BILLAMICASR@aol.com wrote:
Hi Rich, Do you have bottom paint on her? Or will the small amount of growth come right off with a water blast. I'll have my M-17 at Oyster Point a few miles North. I was thinking about extended bay cruising, but don't want to add the coating. Bill M-17 SF _______________________________________________
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--- Wayne Yeargain <saltydog@ev1.net> wrote:
Could you tell us how you lost your centerboard, & do you have a 15 or a 17? Wayne
Wayne, I have a 1984 M15 #310. I purchased it in Feb 1998 and at that time the stainless steel center board pin was flush with the exterior of the keel. The ends of the stainless pin were clearly visible. This was the first time I had ever seen an M15 and did not know that the factory doesn't build them this way.
From the factory the pin is recessed slighly on both sides of the keel exterior and glassed over. Factory built the CB pin will not be a risk factor.
I now know that my M15 had the orignianl pin removed for some reason ( most likely a CB repair due to removing the stopper knot in the lanyard, this will allow the CB to drop too far and break just forward of the pin). The replacement pin wiggles to the port side as you trailer or possiblly sail as there is no restraint. I had put a small amount of 5200 sealant on the pin and I have epoxied over the pin ends at a later time as the sealant didn't work. I am not sure which "cure" I was using at the time I lost the board. I towed the M15 from VA to MA and was so excited about starting the cruise I did not check the pin to see if it had moved while trailering. During the 30 mi crossing to Nantucket ( a nice beam reach with 12 - 15 kts of wind, deeeelightfull) I crossed a shoal and it got a little rough. The CB started clunking more than expected but after I cross the shoal I heard no more noise. When I anchored that night I pulled the cb up but there was no weight on the lanyard as it was broken, no stopper not at the lower end. In the AM went overboard with mask and snorkle to attach a new lanyard - NO CENTERBOARD! - just the pin sticking way out. :( Luckily the new boards Bob Eeg is makeing fit the older M15 with a little judicious sanding here and there. I have now shortend the pin so it is recessed slighly and epoxied over it. The problem has not returned. Thanks Doug __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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