I had some of the same issues, and wish you well. Umiaq, my M-15, went to a new owner early this year after several seasons with very little use, and I still have mixed feelings about that. It's good to have less clutter in life -- but this was more than just "clutter". I do miss Umiaq, even though it made sense to pass her on. I'm far from boatless: A Vancouver 25, two folding kayaks, a rigid kayak and Moby Dink the deflatable. The V25 is a wonderful boat, but what should have been a simple job (haulout, bottom paint and new prop) cost far too much money and wasn't finished until August -- and made me seriously consider selling. And then I went for just a short 4-day trip with my son and remembered how much I got out of that boat. Yesterday afternoon was pretty good on the Bay (sailboats as far as the eye could see) and had today not been a school day we could have had a wonderful reach down to Solomons. There are still several weeks of (potentially) good weather and the best time of the year for sailing so perhaps we can have another trip or two. In any case, after feeling somewhat despondent at continual hard (and expensive) work without being able to use the boat, there is at least the possibility of enjoying the things that make it special. (I regret not being able to get to the HessFest, but it just wasn't possible) What am I saying? Well, mostly it's rambling, but perhaps I'm just hoping that you can end up keeping and using your M-17. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+giles.morris=unisys.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+giles.morris=unisys.com@mailman.xmissio n.com] On Behalf Of TOMMYVAL@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:43 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 For Sale Stan, Yea, I am sorry too. I only went out once this year and very little over the life of the boat. Early on I was working all the time and now its hard on the back. I almost had some second thoughts after Saturday's Hess Fest. We had a great sail up the river. I sailed up with Al Williams on his 17 and Al was nice enough to let me sail quite a bit. (Thanks again, Al). Many nice BCC's and NorSea's and of course the class of the fleet, the Montgomery's. It was good to see Bob Eeg again. A nice time was had by all. Sorry you and Carol could not make it. The good news is if I don't sell by mid to late Oct, then I will just have to keep her. Im hoping a can do the deed quickly because the longer it lingers the more time I have to dwell on what I'm doing and thats not good. Anyway we will see. One way or another I will be back on the water either in Bellerin or (God forbid) a power boat. the power option makes it physically easier but it is no where as much fun but I will get to anchor out and still hang will hang out with M boaters. If Im lucky I can bum a ride with some of the local M guys. As you know all the M boaters is what makes having a Montgomery so special but if I dont have a M boat I will just have to crash all the East Coast get togethers. Of course I will come in under the cover of darkness and meet you guys at the bar. Anyway hope to see you guys soon, take care Gary _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats