Norm, Before using a hand/wrench tool on your shrouds and stays you might want to check and see if that tool is indeed suitable for standing rigging. These types of tools are usually for lifeline rigging and specify use for that type of application. I have seen small hand/wrench models sold as 'emergency tools'. I have worn out 3 of the hand wrench models used as directed, on lifelines, when the proper tool was not available. If it were me (I am actually having all new shrouds and stays made up due to a new mast) I would send my work to Mr. Montgomery, and get it done right. How fortunate are we as a group of Owners to have the original Builder/Designer available for assistance!?!! Just my 2 cents worth and you know what you paid for it. PS Having your rig come down in your lap is at best inconvenient and at worst dangerous and usually expensive! BTDTGTTS It is always embarrassing. G.Oberbeck M-17 #316a
Hmm, I bought my tool long ago. Perhaps they've gotten more conservative in their ratings. Just the same, most WM stores have the big nicopress tool and if you went all nicopress you could have new rigging in an hour at a fraction of the cost of a rigging shop, including WM. I've never really liked the look of nicopress fittings but since they're used on the upper end of the standard rig I have to assume they'd be safe for the lower end. Norm Norm, Before using a hand/wrench tool on your shrouds and stays you might want to check and see if that tool is indeed suitable for standing rigging. These types of tools are usually for lifeline rigging and specify use for that type of application. I have seen small hand/wrench models sold as 'emergency tools'. I have worn out 3 of the hand wrench models used as directed, on lifelines, when the proper tool was not available. If it were me (I am actually having all new shrouds and stays made up due to a new mast) I would send my work to Mr. Montgomery, and get it done right. How fortunate are we as a group of Owners to have the original Builder/Designer available for assistance!?!! Just my 2 cents worth and you know what you paid for it. PS Having your rig come down in your lap is at best inconvenient and at worst dangerous and usually expensive! BTDTGTTS It is always embarrassing. G.Oberbeck M-17 #316a
send my work to Mr. Montgomery, and get it done right
Probably what I'd do myself. But... Another option: The builder of my Vancouver is long gone. I replaced the standing rigging last winter. It's _much_ heavier than the M15 and I was a little nervous about it because there are varying reports of difficulty. I ordered the rigging at a good price from Rigging Only (http://www.riggingonly.com/) with a swaged terminal on one end and the other left plain. Each length was ordered a foot longer than actually needed and I used a Hayn Hi-Mod swageless terminal (also ordered from Rigging Only) after cutting it to the correct length. Cutting the wire cleanly was easy using an angle grinder and wrapping the area to be cut with tape to prevent unravelling. The job was much easier than I expected and the rig is still up. Giles Morris
Another easy way to cut the wire is with a chisle and a 5 pound sledge. Wrap the wire with tape before cutting. It makes a suprisingly clean cut.Be sure to have the wire laying on a flat iron/steel surface. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Shroud for M15
send my work to Mr. Montgomery, and get it done right
Probably what I'd do myself. But... Another option: The builder of my Vancouver is long gone. I replaced the standing rigging last winter. It's _much_ heavier than the M15 and I was a little nervous about it because there are varying reports of difficulty. I ordered the rigging at a good price from Rigging Only (http://www.riggingonly.com/) with a swaged terminal on one end and the other left plain. Each length was ordered a foot longer than actually needed and I used a Hayn Hi-Mod swageless terminal (also ordered from Rigging Only) after cutting it to the correct length. Cutting the wire cleanly was easy using an angle grinder and wrapping the area to be cut with tape to prevent unravelling. The job was much easier than I expected and the rig is still up. Giles Morris _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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