The Tiller Clutch gets some good comments from you out there, but I wonder if the line would make it difficult to access the motor quickly, or make it difficult to steer sitting aft when the forward seats are occupied by guests or crew. Tom Jenkins M17
yes you can't get exactly next to the motor. i've not had an issue putting my knees a bit under the TillerClutch's line and then reaching to lower, raise, start, stop or adjust the motor. the TillerClutch is so good at holding the tiller if i need to 'back up' i lock the tiller straight and just back up and steer with the motor. the tiller _does_not_ bash port or starboard. using the stern cleats to secure the line the angle is 'aft' enough that it isn't in the way for multiple people in the cockpit. when i've sailed with many i'm sitting aft of the main sheet hardware and the guest(s)/crew is forward of the main sheet hardware. if you sat so far aft you ran into the TillerClutch line you would be limiting full rudder control as you would driving the tiller into your body. in summary: i don't find that the TillerClutch significantly conflicts with 'cockpit use'. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Wed, 6/27/12, Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> wrote:
The Tiller Clutch gets some good comments from you out there, but I wonder if the line would make it difficult to access the motor quickly, or make it difficult to steer sitting aft when the forward seats are occupied by guests or crew.
Tom Jenkins M17
Thanks, Dave. Got to get me one of those rigs. On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:03 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
yes you can't get exactly next to the motor. i've not had an issue putting my knees a bit under the TillerClutch's line and then reaching to lower, raise, start, stop or adjust the motor.
the TillerClutch is so good at holding the tiller if i need to 'back up' i lock the tiller straight and just back up and steer with the motor. the tiller _does_not_ bash port or starboard.
using the stern cleats to secure the line the angle is 'aft' enough that it isn't in the way for multiple people in the cockpit. when i've sailed with many i'm sitting aft of the main sheet hardware and the guest(s)/crew is forward of the main sheet hardware.
if you sat so far aft you ran into the TillerClutch line you would be limiting full rudder control as you would driving the tiller into your body.
in summary: i don't find that the TillerClutch significantly conflicts with 'cockpit use'.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Wed, 6/27/12, Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> wrote:
The Tiller Clutch gets some good comments from you out there, but I wonder if the line would make it difficult to access the motor quickly, or make it difficult to steer sitting aft when the forward seats are occupied by guests or crew.
Tom Jenkins M17
Can you adjust the tension on the tiller Clutch? I have the Tiller Tamer by Davis which I like very much. I can adjust the tension so that it will hold it's place to suit weather conditions and I can simply override it if necessary without disengaging. I have the control lines attached at the stern approximately 18" from center so it doesn't intefere when working on the outboard. So that's an option for those looking to get some helm relief. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Clutch again yes you can't get exactly next to the motor. i've not had an issue putting my knees a bit under the TillerClutch's line and then reaching to lower, raise, start, stop or adjust the motor. the TillerClutch is so good at holding the tiller if i need to 'back up' i lock the tiller straight and just back up and steer with the motor. the tiller _does_not_ bash port or starboard. using the stern cleats to secure the line the angle is 'aft' enough that it isn't in the way for multiple people in the cockpit. when i've sailed with many i'm sitting aft of the main sheet hardware and the guest(s)/crew is forward of the main sheet hardware. if you sat so far aft you ran into the TillerClutch line you would be limiting full rudder control as you would driving the tiller into your body. in summary: i don't find that the TillerClutch significantly conflicts with 'cockpit use'. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Wed, 6/27/12, Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> wrote:
The Tiller Clutch gets some good comments from you out there, but I wonder if the line would make it difficult to access the motor quickly, or make it difficult to steer sitting aft when the forward seats are occupied by guests or crew.
Tom Jenkins M17
you cannot adjust the tension of how the TillerClutch 'clamps' the line ... but it is so well built (metal) that you can push the tiller with the TillerClutch engaged and it will resist and then slide along the line. the clutch itself will not break. A BUT - this will work in the 17 and 15 if you tie the line off on the stern cleats. if you use the attachment system provided by WaveFront it _will_not_ work as their provided little v-cleats are designed to break if in an emergency you need to 'override' the TillerClutch. :: Dave Scobie --- On Wed, 6/27/12, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Can you adjust the tension on the tiller Clutch? I have the Tiller Tamer by Davis which I like very much. I can adjust the tension so that it will hold it's place to suit weather conditions and I can simply override it if necessary without disengaging. I have the control lines attached at the stern approximately 18" from center so it doesn't intefere when working on the outboard. So that's an option for those looking to get some helm relief.
Joe SeaFrog M17
----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:03 PM
yes you can't get exactly next to the motor. i've not had an issue putting my knees a bit under the TillerClutch's line and then reaching to lower, raise, start, stop or adjust the motor.
the TillerClutch is so good at holding the tiller if i need to 'back up' i lock the tiller straight and just back up and steer with the motor. the tiller _does_not_ bash port or starboard.
using the stern cleats to secure the line the angle is 'aft' enough that it isn't in the way for multiple people in the cockpit. when i've sailed with many i'm sitting aft of the main sheet hardware and the guest(s)/crew is forward of the main sheet hardware.
if you sat so far aft you ran into the TillerClutch line you would be limiting full rudder control as you would driving the tiller into your body.
in summary: i don't find that the TillerClutch significantly conflicts with 'cockpit use'.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
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