Dave: If you have Firefox, you need to click on "Enable Java Script", found under: - "Tools" - "Options" - "Content" Then reload the page. IE will have something similar. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY When I go to the MSOG site I get a message on the top of the page "menu will appear here, or reload". I have tried everything I know and can't get the menu to appear. Anyone else have this problem, or what can I do to fix it? Thanks Dave M17 206