RE: M_Boats: boom tent w/out lifelines?
Great tent Rich. Thanks for the pics (you too Doug). Chukar lacks stantions/lifelines. I suspect that's the case with most M15s. Anyone designed a tent that works without them? t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: Richard Cottrell [mailto:rc2222@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:06 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: boom tent and lee cloths Steve: Answer: Velcro rapped over the lifelines and in the case of Really, cordages inserted through holes in the toerail. Steve R <stever@mail.saabnet.com> wrote: Thank you Rich and Doug. And thanks for your humor, Lenny. A question: how is the lee cloth supported? Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY --- rc2222@postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
The pictures are now available to see at http://msog.org/how-to/cottrell/cottrell_tent.cfm
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Rich Cottrell "Really" M15 Menlo Park, Ca
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Greetings , I have been thinking about a boom tent design for "hula pie", [M17 w/o lifelines] that would use the main halyard to pull up on a tab at the peak of the tent giving greater headroom and using a couple of fiberglass battens or 1/2 inch PVC pipe across the boat and tied down to the rails to give it some arch for rain to run off. I would try out this idea first with a tarp or some Tyvek first. What do you think? Maybe connect a sail slide to the end of a batten that ran longitudinally and connected with a T or passed under the cross battens. What would be really slick to use are those bungee/ aluminum tent supports that pull apart and fold up to about 15 inches long. Thanks to all for the exchange of info, photos and ideas, Ron and Cathryn Goodspeed M17 #025 "hula pie"
I built something like what you describe. It's held up above the boom by the main halyard, tied aft to the backstay, and uses two whisker poles as the spreaders. It's great at anchor, or motoring on a hot, calm day. I built it mostly for protection from the sun, but it should turn water too. It's more open than Rich's design. A regular Singer sewing machine has a tough time punching through 7 layers of Sunbrella and two layers of nylon webbing at the same time (Seams and joints on the corners). Broke at least two needles in the process! I could send a sketch of the thing, but pictures would have to wait until warm weather. Howard M17, #278 On 12/19/02 11:52 AM, "ron and cathryn goodspeed" <rcgoodspeed@mac.com> wrote:
Greetings ,
I have been thinking about a boom tent design for "hula pie", [M17 w/o lifelines] that would use the main halyard to pull up on a tab at the peak of the tent giving greater headroom and using a couple of fiberglass battens or 1/2 inch PVC pipe across the boat and tied down to the rails to give it some arch for rain to run off. I would try out this idea first with a tarp or some Tyvek first. What do you think? Maybe connect a sail slide to the end of a batten that ran longitudinally and connected with a T or passed under the cross battens. What would be really slick to use are those bungee/ aluminum tent supports that pull apart and fold up to about 15 inches long.
Thanks to all for the exchange of info, photos and ideas,
Ron and Cathryn Goodspeed M17 #025 "hula pie"
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This may be as impractical as my poorly-thought-out "gimbaled two-burner campstove" idea, but what about flexible fiberglass wands made for dome tents, arched over the cockpit to form a sort of "conestoga wagon" frame, so that the boom tent takes the shape of, well, a conestoga wagon, or quonset hut? The wands would be seated in the toe-rails (mine are the perforated aluminum found on the older 17's -- not as pretty as teak, but very practical). I gave a mathematician friend the boat's beam and the height I would want the arch at its peak and he gave me the length of the wand. The wands would be segmented and shock-corded as found in dome-tent poles: They would be fed through sleeves on the tent. One of the bimini makers actually uses this principal. Aside from the difficulty of finding dome-tent poles just the right length, what other problems am I overlooking? Perhaps difficulty of setup? I've seen a free-standing half-tube (conestoga wagon/quonset hut) type tent in use on a Drascombe that could also be pitched on a beach. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron and cathryn goodspeed" <rcgoodspeed@mac.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: boom tent w/out lifelines? Greetings , I have been thinking about a boom tent design for "hula pie", [M17 w/o lifelines] that would use the main halyard to pull up on a tab at the peak of the tent giving greater headroom and using a couple of fiberglass battens or 1/2 inch PVC pipe across the boat and tied down to the rails to give it some arch for rain to run off. I would try out this idea first with a tarp or some Tyvek first. What do you think? Maybe connect a sail slide to the end of a batten that ran longitudinally and connected with a T or passed under the cross battens. What would be really slick to use are those bungee/ aluminum tent supports that pull apart and fold up to about 15 inches long. Thanks to all for the exchange of info, photos and ideas, Ron and Cathryn Goodspeed M17 #025 "hula pie" _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
For more ideas, Sailrite has some good information on how to build these things (hoops, tent shaped, etc.) http://www.sailrite.com/awnings.htm I selected the Sunbrella option. Other fabrics could be used, depending on intended use (rain protection vs. sun shade, etc.) They are not like Rich's fully enclosed boom tent, but could be made similar with some lee cloths. However, having made one...using a sail maker would be the easy way! And buying all the fabric, tools and material to do it yourself is not cheap either. Howard
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