Here are my experiences in reefing my M15 "Joy": I trailed up to Stockton Lake in Southwest Missouri, noted for fine (and high) winds for great sailing in Nov., 1989. She already had two automobile batteries in her bilge, one for lights and electronics, one for her auxiliary power of a Minn-Kota trolling motor (permanently mounted through the hull and just aft of the keel), so she had a lot more stability than original! When winds piped up, my first move was always to lower the boom as far as possible. That always made a major difference for me. Then a single reef in the main, then reef the jib (most effective, set and drew very well), then a second in the main. My sailing journal has these abbreviated notes (and my speeds were as measured with the hand-held Dwyer wind gauge, and the also hand-held Knotstick): With boom lowered, all reefs in, and Dwyer reading rarely below 20 mph, usually 20 to 30 plus, some gusts over 40, Joy frequently went 5 1/4 knots on a close to beam reach. The next day, with Dwyer telling me pretty steady 30 to 40, and waves running one to three fret, we had a ball, with a wet one occasionally coming over the rail to get me. Water temp was 57°, cool! (I was only 60 back then, and a lot more adventurous than I can afford--physically and mentally--to be now!) I will await any good answers to Donglai's request for how to remove vinyl numbers and names. I am anxiously awaiting, this week I hope, the delivery of my new (to me, an "86) M15 being trucked in from Los Gatos. John Butler ˜˜˜˜˜˜/)˜˜˜˜˜ Sailing again! Praise the Lord!