In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted. The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership: Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines? As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists; http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
keith: yes we need to have things searchable. there are lots of good information that needs to be accessible. without that information available one looses the 15+ years of history that is available on the list. what needs to be remembered that anything, ANYTHING, you do on the net is public (yes, this includes email and the www-sites you visit) and can be found/searched/read. :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine --- On Fri, 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I certainly vote for searchable archives. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla On Mar 23, 2012, at 1:05 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
keith:
yes we need to have things searchable. there are lots of good information that needs to be accessible. without that information available one looses the 15+ years of history that is available on the list.
what needs to be remembered that anything, ANYTHING, you do on the net is public (yes, this includes email and the www-sites you visit) and can be found/searched/read.
:: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine
--- On Fri, 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I vote to make it searchable. David M15 On Mar 23, 2012, at 4:05 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
keith:
yes we need to have things searchable. there are lots of good information that needs to be accessible. without that information available one looses the 15+ years of history that is available on the list.
what needs to be remembered that anything, ANYTHING, you do on the net is public (yes, this includes email and the www-sites you visit) and can be found/searched/read.
:: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine
--- On Fri, 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Anyone - It will help keep the value UP -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted. The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership: Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines? As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists; http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Amen to searchable and open to anyone. What in hell could be so top secret that we wouldn't want the archives? Jeff Johnston On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, August Trometer <atrometer@gmail.com>wrote:
Anyone - It will help keep the value UP
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
-- *Jeff+* Molōn labe!
I agree. I searched the archives before joining the list before I got my M15. Helped with the decision. Daniel On 3/23/2012 1:29 PM, Jeffrey Johnston wrote:
Amen to searchable and open to anyone. What in hell could be so top secret that we wouldn't want the archives?
Jeff Johnston
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, August Trometer<atrometer@gmail.com>wrote:
Anyone - It will help keep the value UP
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Make the information free! On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, August Trometer <atrometer@gmail.com>wrote:
Anyone - It will help keep the value UP
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
-- Chris
I think it is silly for anyone to " guard" the archives! It was a GREAT pleasure to look at all th activities of the Montgomery fleet and it was a major reason to purchase one! It should be avaliabve to anyone and in turn would prompt others to join the crew and purchase a Monty. Is it better to not allow someone to see what a magnificent boat we all enjoy or invite them to join us!????? --- On Fri, 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote: From: Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, March 23, 2012, 2:52 PM In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted. The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership: Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines? As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists; http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Please keep them searchable. On 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Yes please. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Keith and asking. On 3/23/12, Michael Murphy <mikeandpaula48@gmail.com> wrote:
Please keep them searchable.
On 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Free the archives!!! Bill Day On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes please. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Keith and asking.
On 3/23/12, Michael Murphy <mikeandpaula48@gmail.com> wrote:
Please keep them searchable.
On 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
When I was first thinking about buying a small boat, I searched the internet. And, based on the discussions, experiences, questions, and photos, I eventually settled on a Montgomery 17. I think you provide information for possible new Monty owners by having all the information available to those who need it. ;-) - Ed -----Original Message----- From: Bill Day Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Searchable Archives Free the archives!!! Bill Day On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes please. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Keith and asking.
On 3/23/12, Michael Murphy <mikeandpaula48@gmail.com> wrote:
Please keep them searchable.
On 3/23/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I agree with the others who have chimed in. Open the archives for searching to anyone. If you work for the CIA use a different name! ;) Mark Dvorscak Proud to let anyone know I was smart enough to buy a Montgomery (3 of em actually) 15,17 & 23 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted. The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership: Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines? As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists; http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Keith, Is it possible to hide the senders email address when posting to the list? I like the searchable archives and have used them in the past as they hold a wealth of information. My only concern, and correct me if I am wrong, is I believe both the M-List and the Archives expose a person's personal email address. Being a tech guy I think it would be better not to expose email addresses to the public and wanted to ask regarding. Thanks for the work you do in supporting the M-List for all these years! Randy Graves On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Roberta Dvorscak <edarts93@earthlink.net>wrote:
I agree with the others who have chimed in. Open the archives for searching to anyone. If you work for the CIA use a different name! ;) Mark Dvorscak Proud to let anyone know I was smart enough to buy a Montgomery (3 of em actually) 15,17 & 23
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Google your email address. You're already out there! :) Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Graves" <rkgraves@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:10 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
Keith,
Is it possible to hide the senders email address when posting to the list?
I like the searchable archives and have used them in the past as they hold a wealth of information. My only concern, and correct me if I am wrong, is I believe both the M-List and the Archives expose a person's personal email address. Being a tech guy I think it would be better not to expose email addresses to the public and wanted to ask regarding.
Thanks for the work you do in supporting the M-List for all these years!
Randy Graves
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Roberta Dvorscak <edarts93@earthlink.net>wrote:
I agree with the others who have chimed in. Open the archives for searching to anyone. If you work for the CIA use a different name! ;) Mark Dvorscak Proud to let anyone know I was smart enough to buy a Montgomery (3 of em actually) 15,17 & 23
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Ooh, that's scary!! Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Diehl To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Searchable Archives Google your email address. You're already out there! :) Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Graves" <rkgraves@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:10 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
Keith,
Is it possible to hide the senders email address when posting to the list?
I like the searchable archives and have used them in the past as they hold a wealth of information. My only concern, and correct me if I am wrong, is I believe both the M-List and the Archives expose a person's personal email address. Being a tech guy I think it would be better not to expose email addresses to the public and wanted to ask regarding.
Thanks for the work you do in supporting the M-List for all these years!
Randy Graves
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Roberta Dvorscak <edarts93@earthlink.net>wrote:
I agree with the others who have chimed in. Open the archives for searching to anyone. If you work for the CIA use a different name! ;) Mark Dvorscak Proud to let anyone know I was smart enough to buy a Montgomery (3 of em actually) 15,17 & 23
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Keith Diehl Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:53 PM To: Montgomery Boats List Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against. Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine? Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Keith....my concern is a computer-bot program that will be data mining all of our email addresses and other information. Is there anyway you could put a human required firewall question up front so a rogue program would be stopped before entering? Much like tinypic.com does before you download a photo. They give you a script to type into a box to make sure you're not a machine that is data mining. If you can't protect our email addresses from this, I would ask that you remove my information that has my email addresses attached. What is so hard about requiring a simple sign up (a bot program could not sign up) before accessing information? I feel already that GOOGLE and other search engines that are already tied to YouTube and Facebook data mine too much information. I get these POP UPs, web ads and rogue emails constantly. Anyway to protect our email addresses Keith? Thanks Bob
From: kdiehl@xmission.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:31:32 -0600 Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Keith....my concern is a computer-bot program that will be data mining all of our email addresses and other information. Is there anyway you could put a human required firewall question up front so a rogue program would be stopped before entering? Much like tinypic.com does before you download a photo. They give you a script to type into a box to make sure you're not a machine that is data mining. If you can't protect our email addresses from this, I would ask that you remove my information that has my email addresses attached. What is so hard about requiring a simple sign up (a bot program could not sign up) before accessing information? I feel already that GOOGLE and other search engines that are already tied to YouTube and Facebook data mine too much information. I get these POP UPs, web ads and rogue emails constantly. Anyway to protect our email addresses Keith? Thanks Bob
From: kdiehl@xmission.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:31:32 -0600 Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Bob, I understand your concern, but our email addresses are already available all over the net. Yours appears on your web site, trailersailer.com, and lots of other locations as shown by a quick google search. As the saying goes, the horse is already out of the barn. In your mail program setup, you are asked for a name and an email address. The information is displayed in mail headers as "name" <email@address.xxx>. For example, From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com>, or From: "Bob Eeg" <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>. It appears that the Lurker search program only displays the email name and not the address, but I'm not going to say that email addresses might not be exposed now or in the future. It's the internet! Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Eeg" <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> <<<---------- JUST LIKE THIS To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:12 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives Keith....my concern is a computer-bot program that will be data mining all of our email addresses and other information. Is there anyway you could put a human required firewall question up front so a rogue program would be stopped before entering? Much like tinypic.com does before you download a photo. They give you a script to type into a box to make sure you're not a machine that is data mining. If you can't protect our email addresses from this, I would ask that you remove my information that has my email addresses attached. What is so hard about requiring a simple sign up (a bot program could not sign up) before accessing information? I feel already that GOOGLE and other search engines that are already tied to YouTube and Facebook data mine too much information. I get these POP UPs, web ads and rogue emails constantly. Anyway to protect our email addresses Keith? Thanks Bob
From: kdiehl@xmission.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:31:32 -0600 Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
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I vote for open searchable archives. Paul Kasriel "Reef-or-Madness" 2005 M-17 Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry® smartphone -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> Sender: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:31:32 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against. Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine? Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I most definitely vote for open archives, in aviation it's the #1 biggest item that helps the longevity, popularity, repair ability , and therefore resell ability of a design. Stan ________________________________ From: Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:31 AM Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against. Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine? Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I vote OPEN --- On Mon, 3/26/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote: From: Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 26, 2012, 11:31 AM I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against. Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine? Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Ditto on the open archives. A useful resource indeed. Martha Ekwurtzel M 15 'Knot Head' Oak Park, IL Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Louis Remmers <louremmers@yahoo.com> wrote:
I vote OPEN
--- On Mon, 3/26/12, Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
From: Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Vote Count - Searchable Archives To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 26, 2012, 11:31 AM
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
Keith, I definetly am in favor of searchable archives. Bill Hinkel '87 M15 "Prelude" ---- Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
+1 for open Neil Dorf ' 85 M15 "TwoCan" NorCal On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:31 AM, "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
I'd like to vote for open. So would my Uncle Harvey. He's buried in Chicago so he votes quite often. Jim M-17 "Spirit" On Mar 26, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Neil Dorf wrote:
+1 for open
Neil Dorf ' 85 M15 "TwoCan" NorCal
On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:31 AM, "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
I've got 17.5 votes for open archives and 1.5 votes against.
Anyone else want to weigh in before I decide to opent the archives and enable the search engine?
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: "Montgomery Boats List" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Searchable Archives
In the past, some members were very concerned that their postings were readable by non-members, so I closed the archives to public viewing and cancelled our searchable archives. I never quite understood the concern, since anyone can join the mailing and then read everything old and new, but that was what was wanted.
The question of searchable archives has come up again, so I'll ask the membership:
Would you like to have searchable archives if it means the archives are readable by anyone on the internet, including search engines?
As an example of what we could have, here is the main Lurker search engine page for Xmission hosted public lists;
http://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/splash/index.en.html
Keith Diehl Cottonwood Heights, UT
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