I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work. For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening? Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat? _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I used 3M 4200 sealant when I resealed the bow pulpit and mast step. It is flexible and made for "removable parts". The 4200 is a fast cure and dries in 1 to 2 hrs and fully cures in 24 hrs. I think it is better than the silicone mixes for marine applications. I have used Oven cleaner to remove painted on boat names with no ill effect on the gel coat. I left on on for 5 minutes and application. Unfortunately I wish it had more effects on the old paint as it still took a lot of elbow grease. For stains I would try a bleaching agent but try it in a safe area first. Soft scrub does a decent job on the non-skid areas. Thanks Doug "Seas the Day" --- "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> wrote:
I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work.
For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris
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I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening?
Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat?
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Thanks, Giles. You're in good company. Today, I looked up the Beckson port in West Marine's online catalog and the description instructs the buyer to use silicon. I'm interested in the strip-caulk idea for orts. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work. For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening? Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat?
Hello, I've been receiving your correspondents regarding your inspection plate install. Be careful with the 3m products (polysulfides). Some will eat your inspection plate. Marinized silicon is your best bet. Also there is a product called "FSR" which is good for removing stains on gelcoat. It is available at most marine hardware stores or check your west marine catalog. Lemon juice works great for removing stains on stainless steel I hope you don't mind the intrusion Good Sailing Mark Escovedo M17 Flushdeck "Chunky Dory" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: M_Boats: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
Thanks, Giles. You're in good company. Today, I looked up the Beckson
port in West Marine's online catalog
and the description instructs the buyer to use silicon. I'm interested in the strip-caulk idea for orts. --Craig
----- Original Message ----- From: "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work.
For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris
-----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening?
Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat?
_______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Definitely not an intrusion: Very helpful input, Mark, thanks! I'd love to see pics of your flushdeck 17', if you have any digitized photos. If so, can you send them to chonshell@ia4u.net? Thanks!!!! --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner Hello, I've been receiving your correspondents regarding your inspection plate install. Be careful with the 3m products (polysulfides). Some will eat your inspection plate. Marinized silicon is your best bet. Also there is a product called "FSR" which is good for removing stains on gelcoat. It is available at most marine hardware stores or check your west marine catalog. Lemon juice works great for removing stains on stainless steel I hope you don't mind the intrusion Good Sailing Mark Escovedo M17 Flushdeck "Chunky Dory" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner Thanks, Giles. You're in good company. Today, I looked up the Beckson port in West Marine's online catalog and the description instructs the buyer to use silicon. I'm interested in the strip-caulk idea for ports. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work. For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening? Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat?
Hi Graig, I'm a new owner. But I know this boat well. That's why when she went on the market I leaped at the chance to purchase her. She's not quite picture perfect yet, She needs some TLC. But rest assured as soon as she's ready I'll share. Mark M17 FD Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: M_Boats: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
Definitely not an intrusion: Very helpful input, Mark, thanks! I'd love
to see pics of your flushdeck 17',
if you have any digitized photos. If so, can you send them to chonshell@ia4u.net? Thanks!!!! --Craig
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
Hello,
I've been receiving your correspondents regarding your inspection plate install. Be careful with the 3m products (polysulfides). Some will eat your inspection plate. Marinized silicon is your best bet. Also there is a product called "FSR" which is good for removing stains on gelcoat. It is available at most marine hardware stores or check your west marine catalog. Lemon juice works great for removing stains on stainless steel
I hope you don't mind the intrusion
Good Sailing Mark Escovedo M17 Flushdeck "Chunky Dory"
----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
Thanks, Giles. You're in good company. Today, I looked up the Beckson port in West Marine's online catalog and the description instructs the buyer to use silicon. I'm interested in the strip-caulk idea for ports. --Craig
----- Original Message ----- From: "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work.
For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris
-----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening?
Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat?
_______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Looking forward to it, Mark, thanks! --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner Hi Graig, I'm a new owner. But I know this boat well. That's why when she went on the market I leaped at the chance to purchase her. She's not quite picture perfect yet, She needs some TLC. But rest assured as soon as she's ready I'll share. Mark M17 FD Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner Definitely not an intrusion: Very helpful input, Mark, thanks! I'd love to see pics of your flushdeck 17', if you have any digitized photos. If so, can you send them to chonshell@ia4u.net? Thanks!!!! --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner Hello, I've been receiving your correspondents regarding your inspection plate install. Be careful with the 3m products (polysulfides). Some will eat your inspection plate. Marinized silicon is your best bet. Also there is a product called "FSR" which is good for removing stains on gelcoat. It is available at most marine hardware stores or check your west marine catalog. Lemon juice works great for removing stains on stainless steel I hope you don't mind the intrusion Good Sailing Mark Escovedo M17 Flushdeck "Chunky Dory" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner Thanks, Giles. You're in good company. Today, I looked up the Beckson port in West Marine's online catalog and the description instructs the buyer to use silicon. I'm interested in the strip-caulk idea for ports. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work. For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening? Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat?
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