Montypals: Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here? Daniel
daniel: i would fill the holes to assure no water gets in there under your new fitting and causes a problem. it would also re-strengthen the area as those unfilled holes are now 'weakened' points on the board. pick your preference for filler. make sure it is appropriate for a marine, high water, location. if you have the skill make teak plugs. teak is a challenge because it is so oily and some materials _do_not_like to stick. read and follow the manufacture's recommendations on treating the wood before filling the holes. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Mon, 3/7/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: Montypals: Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here? Daniel
Perhaps I can just use the West Systems epoxy. Looks like that would work... Daniel On Mar 7, 2011, at 10:20 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
daniel:
i would fill the holes to assure no water gets in there under your new fitting and causes a problem. it would also re-strengthen the area as those unfilled holes are now 'weakened' points on the board.
pick your preference for filler. make sure it is appropriate for a marine, high water, location. if you have the skill make teak plugs.
teak is a challenge because it is so oily and some materials _do_not_like to stick. read and follow the manufacture's recommendations on treating the wood before filling the holes.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
Daniel
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On 08-Mar-11 1:23 AM, Daniel Rich wrote: Hi Daniel, Murphy probably saw to it that the mounting holes of your new main sheet block don't match those of the existing one. My approach would be to try and use at least one of the existing holes. I would enlarge the remaining holes and then glue in a teak plug, or if you have a small piece of teak on hand, you could just carve out a small dowel of teak and glue that in the hole. I have removed the teak board on my old M15 several times while working on something, and when finished I just put the screws back into their holes and glued in new teak plugs. ... or as you say, just put some epoxy into the holes to filled them completely, and then mount your new hardware. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
Perhaps I can just use the West Systems epoxy. Looks like that would work...
Daniel On Mar 7, 2011, at 10:20 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
daniel:
i would fill the holes to assure no water gets in there under your new fitting and causes a problem. it would also re-strengthen the area as those unfilled holes are now 'weakened' points on the board.
pick your preference for filler. make sure it is appropriate for a marine, high water, location. if you have the skill make teak plugs.
teak is a challenge because it is so oily and some materials _do_not_like to stick. read and follow the manufacture's recommendations on treating the wood before filling the holes.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 3/7/11, Daniel Rich<danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
Daniel
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Hi Daniel, When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my boat is pretty sad. Thanks! Chris Smith M15 #152 Persephone On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
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I just planned to toss it. You can have it for the cost of shipping it to you. Interestingly, it is exactly the same model as came on my old FJ. It is in perfectly good working order. Bob Becker made sure of that! He took good care of this boat. I will get to that project within the next few weeks. Got a bunch of commitments before that with my busy schedule. Daniel On Mar 8, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Chris Smith wrote:
Hi Daniel,
When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my boat is pretty sad.
Thanks!
Chris Smith M15 #152 Persephone
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
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Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not mount it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations if anyone has tackled this. Thanks, Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Daniel, When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my boat is pretty sad. Thanks! Chris Smith M15 #152 Persephone On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: > Montypals: > > Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main > sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with > a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I > had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the > current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! > > Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where > the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. > What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy > or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? > Thoughts here? > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > -- Chris _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
John, I did exactly that on my 1977 vintage M-17, and it works fine. The traveller sits under the hatch at the forward end of the cockpit where the original was installed, but it would work the same farther back. I can send you a photo, but my boat is in winter storage for at least another month. Rich Makela M-17 #233 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:05 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not mount it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations if anyone has tackled this. Thanks, Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Daniel, When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my boat is pretty sad. Thanks! Chris Smith M15 #152 Persephone On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: > Montypals: > > Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main > sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with > a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I > had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the > current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! > > Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where > the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. > What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy > or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? > Thoughts here? > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > -- Chris _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Rich: I've got M-17 # 232! It's also got a mainsheet traveler about 2 ft. back from the cabin hatch. The traveler is so far from the boom, and so short (limited by the narrow cockpit sole) that I doubt the traveler is worth its cost, + cars, etc. I'd say just mount the mainsheet blocks in the center and be done with it. The only negative to this arrangement is the one-point attachment to the boom. Over-eager crew can bend the boom. I had to replace mine as it was bent when I bought the boat. Mark House ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Makela" <richmak@makelaperformance.com> To: "'John Davies'" <jdavies104@gmail.com>; "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
John,
I did exactly that on my 1977 vintage M-17, and it works fine. The traveller sits under the hatch at the forward end of the cockpit where the original was installed, but it would work the same farther back. I can send you a photo, but my boat is in winter storage for at least another month.
Rich Makela M-17 #233 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:05 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not mount it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations if anyone has tackled this.
Thanks,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the
old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it
from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my
boat is pretty sad.
Thanks!
Chris Smith
M15 #152 Persephone
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
> Montypals:
>
> Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main
> sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with
> a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I
> had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the
> current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
>
> Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where
> the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it.
> What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy
> or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts?
> Thoughts here?
>
> Daniel
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>
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Mark, Mine is all the way forward. I expect my mainsheet block on the boom is farther forward as well. I find that it does make a difference in heavy air to be able to let out the traveller and then harden up on the mainsheet to flatten the sail, especially when racing. I like the forward position for cruising because it keeps the mainsheet away from the passengers. Rich -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark House Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:09 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system Rich: I've got M-17 # 232! It's also got a mainsheet traveler about 2 ft. back from the cabin hatch. The traveler is so far from the boom, and so short (limited by the narrow cockpit sole) that I doubt the traveler is worth its cost, + cars, etc. I'd say just mount the mainsheet blocks in the center and be done with it. The only negative to this arrangement is the one-point attachment to the boom. Over-eager crew can bend the boom. I had to replace mine as it was bent when I bought the boat. Mark House ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Makela" <richmak@makelaperformance.com> To: "'John Davies'" <jdavies104@gmail.com>; "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
John,
I did exactly that on my 1977 vintage M-17, and it works fine. The traveller sits under the hatch at the forward end of the cockpit where the original was installed, but it would work the same farther back. I can send you a photo, but my boat is in winter storage for at least another month.
Rich Makela M-17 #233 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:05 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not mount it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations if anyone has tackled this.
Thanks,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the
old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it
from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my
boat is pretty sad.
Thanks!
Chris Smith
M15 #152 Persephone
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
> Montypals:
>
> Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main
> sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with
> a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I
> had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the
> current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
>
> Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where
> the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it.
> What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy
> or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts?
> Thoughts here?
>
> Daniel
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Thanks, Rich, a picture would be great, and I'm not in a big rush. My traveler track is on the cockpit floor about halfway back, right under the mid-boom mainsheet block, and the car is secured by a spring-loaded pin. It's a pain moving the car to windward when tacking since if you miss the slack period during the tack you have to spill wind to move it later. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 1:41 PM, Rich Makela <richmak@makelaperformance.com> wrote: John, I did exactly that on my 1977 vintage M-17, and it works fine. The traveller sits under the hatch at the forward end of the cockpit where the original was installed, but it would work the same farther back. I can send you a photo, but my boat is in winter storage for at least another month. Rich Makela M-17 #233 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:05 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not mount it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations if anyone has tackled this. Thanks, Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Daniel, When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my boat is pretty sad. Thanks! Chris Smith M15 #152 Persephone On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: > Montypals: > > Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main > sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with > a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I > had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the > current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! > > Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where > the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. > What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy > or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? > Thoughts here? > > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > -- Chris _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
I strongly prefer that the roller traveller is mounted just ahead of the helmsman; just enough so the he can slip past the tiller when tacking. That way he can tend to the mainsheet himself. The real value of the roller traveller is so that he can move it to weather in light air to bring the boom closer to the center without oversheeting, to allow some twist in the main. Very important upwind, and a secret weapon of sorts. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Makela" <richmak@makelaperformance.com> To: "'John Davies'" <jdavies104@gmail.com>; "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
John,
I did exactly that on my 1977 vintage M-17, and it works fine. The traveller sits under the hatch at the forward end of the cockpit where the original was installed, but it would work the same farther back. I can send you a photo, but my boat is in winter storage for at least another month.
Rich Makela M-17 #233 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John Davies Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:05 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not mount it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations if anyone has tackled this.
Thanks,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the
old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying it
from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on my
boat is pretty sad.
Thanks!
Chris Smith
M15 #152 Persephone
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
> Montypals:
>
> Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main
> sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with
> a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I
> had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the
> current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
>
> Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where
> the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it.
> What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy
> or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts?
> Thoughts here?
>
> Daniel
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
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Jerry, That's just what I want it for. I race regularly with a cruising club (PRHF rating 294), and need all the help I can get. I'd like to have the track where it is now but be able to haul the traveler to windward using a line 'ready to hand' when sitting on the high side. I like to keep the boom pretty well centered even in a good breeze. Am I doing it right? Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 8, 2011 7:29 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: I strongly prefer that the roller traveller is mounted just ahead of the helmsman; just enough so the he can slip past the tiller when tacking. That way he can tend to the mainsheet himself. The real value of the roller traveller is so that he can move it to weather in light air to bring the boom closer to the center without oversheeting, to allow some twist in the main. Very important upwind, and a secret weapon of sorts. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Makela" <richmak@makelaperformance.com> To: "'John Davies'" <jdavies104@gmail.com>; "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system > John, > > I did exactly that on my 1977 vintage M-17, and it works fine. The > traveller sits under the hatch at the forward end of the cockpit where the > original was installed, but it would work the same farther back. I can > send > you a photo, but my boat is in winter storage for at least another month. > > Rich Makela > M-17 #233 > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of John > Davies > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:05 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system > > Speaking of mainsheets, has anyone replaced the stock mainsheet traveler > (circa 2005) with a running car controlled by lines to each side of the > cockpit? I'd like the traveler to stay on the cockpit floor, not > mount > it at seat level. I'd appreciate hardware and setup recommendations > if > anyone has tackled this. > > Thanks, > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > On Mar 8, 2011 10:54 AM, Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > > > When you get your new swivel stand in your M15, what will you do with the > > old one? If it's in good working condition, I'd be interesting in buying > it > > from you. My M15 has been a salvage project and the swivel/cam cleat on > my > > boat is pretty sad. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Chris Smith > > M15 #152 Persephone > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Montypals: > > > > > > Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old > main > > > sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the > cabin > with > > > a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet > block. I > > > had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though > the > > > current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it! > > > > > > Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin > where > > > the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to > remove > it. > > > What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with > epoxy > > > or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and > bolts? > > > Thoughts here? > > > > > > Daniel > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4912 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Hi, Daniel! When you do get to your project, I would love some pics of what you are doing. I'm planning to change my mainsheet system also: the previous owner had modified it and it hasn't been working out so well. Doug made a temporary fix that is better - now I need a permanent solution. Thanks! Bill ---- Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
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I converted my m-15 to end boom sheeting last summer because passenger legs kept tangling in the sheet. All the old parts are still there (except blocks on traveler have been replaced by block/cam/becket) so I can change back to original in five minutes. Has been a very successful change for me for just the cost of the one new cam/block/becket. I sailed a Hobie 16 for many years, so no problem with the sheet behind me ( or really right in front of me). Mike m-15 Anne Bonny ________________________________ From: "whinkeljr@cox.net" <whinkeljr@cox.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 6:47:19 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system Hi, Daniel! When you do get to your project, I would love some pics of what you are doing. I'm planning to change my mainsheet system also: the previous owner had modified it and it hasn't been working out so well. Doug made a temporary fix that is better - now I need a permanent solution. Thanks! Bill ---- Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
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hey mike, do you have any pics of this? i have been thinking of possibly doing this with my m-15. what are the advantages/disadvantages that you have noticed since making the change? thanks Daniel
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I converted my m-15 to end boom sheeting last summer because passenger legs kept tangling in the sheet. All the old parts are still there (except blocks on traveler have been replaced by block/cam/becket) so I can change back to original in five minutes. Has been a very successful change for me for just the cost of the one new cam/block/becket. I sailed a Hobie 16 for many years, so no problem with the sheet behind me ( or really right in front of me). Mike m-15 Anne Bonny
________________________________ From: "whinkeljr@cox.net" <whinkeljr@cox.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 6:47:19 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing Main sheet system
Hi, Daniel! When you do get to your project, I would love some pics of what you are doing. I'm planning to change my mainsheet system also: the previous owner had modified it and it hasn't been working out so well. Doug made a temporary fix that is better - now I need a permanent solution. Thanks! Bill ---- Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Getting M15 #208 just how I want her. I am going to replace the old main sheet system that is currently on the wood board in front of the cabin with a new Harken swivel stand and cam cleat, and Harken small ratchet block. I had such a system on my old FJ, and just loved it. So, even though the current one works, what can I say, I am replacing it!
Now, it is screwed into the wood on that plank in front of the cabin where the centerboard clam cleat is. You know the spot. So, I plan to remove it. What is the best way to mount this? Should I fill the old holes with epoxy or Marine tex, drill new holes, and bed it somehow with screws and bolts? Thoughts here?
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