The Long Island cruise video shows the 4 point lift. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hpUimtpgI Thanks Doug M15G "Seas the Day" --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Rick Langer <farreach@optonline.net> wrote: From: Rick Langer <farreach@optonline.net> Subject: M_Boats: Painting the hull To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:10 PM Chris, One method of lifting an M15 is from the four points comprised the two chain plates and the two stern cleats. There's no need to lift from the bow. On a cruise last year we lifted four boats in and out of the water for a total of eight lifts with this method and the boats were packed for cruising. No problems. I might have a picture or two of the operation if you want to see them. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:55:11 -0500 From: Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Painting the hull Message-ID: <2df715210906051055w5f62303vc1d198d0a6e561a8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Thanks Bob! I've got most of the sanding done now, just have to finish up fiberglassing over various scrapes and dents in the hull. My main concern with hoisting up the boat is the bow piece.
The tip of the bow (where the bow piece attaches) was damaged pretty badly somehow and I can see the material between the hull and deck <refer to these pictures <http://picasaweb.google.com/Chris.R.Smith/BoatProgress#>>. I've got some idea of how I can patch the nose, (carving the shape out of fine styrofoam and then fiberglassing over that, then a little gasoline to dissolve the foam) but I don't know how well it will hold or if there are other issues involved in the joint between the hull and deck.
Thanks again,
Chris M15 Persephone
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com>wrote:
Hi Chris
Try to hoist the boat up enough to slide the trailer out. Lift the boat from a harness attached to the chain plates, bow cleat and the stern bridle. Perhaps built a simple 4x4 box over the front and back?...Jack it up a bit (4 inches), tie it off and roll the trailer away. Do most of your sanding and prep work first. Good luck.
Bob
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:50:48 -0500 From: chris.r.smith@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: monterey race
Jerry, Bob or anyone else: I'm still in the process of painting my boat, and I've gotten lots of good advice here, so let me ask:
Are there any good strongpoints for jacking up a M15? Also, how big of contact points should I have with the hull?
I would like to get it up off the trailer to put the Prime coat on it > and creating a frame in the garage to support the weight seems a bit untenable - perhaps it'd be simpler than jacking it up! In moving around the boat > on the trailer with by standing up under it (I'm still kinda young...) it seems there are some areas that flex quite a bit more than others. Perhaps > this is a sign of something else...
Anyway, here are some photos of my progress.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Chris.R.Smith/BoatProgress#
Thanks for the help!
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Does anybody know the date of the Monterey Potter race? I use to have the website but my computor ate it.
tha nks
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Beautiful. That is perfect. Thanks all! Chris M15 Persephone On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Long Island cruise video shows the 4 point lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hpUimtpgI
Thanks
Doug M15G "Seas the Day"
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Rick Langer <farreach@optonline.net> wrote:
From: Rick Langer <farreach@optonline.net> Subject: M_Boats: Painting the hull To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:10 PM
Chris, One method of lifting an M15 is from the four points comprised the two chain plates and the two stern cleats. There's no need to lift from the bow. On a cruise last year we lifted four boats in and out of the water for a total of eight lifts with this method and the boats were packed for cruising. No problems.
I might have a picture or two of the operation if you want to see them.
Rick M15 #337 Bluebird
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:55:11 -0500 From: Chris Smith <chris.r.smith@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Painting the hull Message-ID: <2df715210906051055w5f62303vc1d198d0a6e561a8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Thanks Bob! I've got most of the sanding done now, just have to finish up fiberglassing over various scrapes and dents in the hull. My main concern with hoisting up the boat is the bow piece.
The tip of the bow (where the bow piece attaches) was damaged pretty badly somehow and I can see the material between the hull and deck <refer to these pictures <http://picasaweb.google.com/Chris.R.Smith/BoatProgress#>>. I've got some idea of how I can patch the nose, (carving the shape out of fine styrofoam and then fiberglassing over that, then a little gasoline to dissolve the foam) but I don't know how well it will hold or if there are other issues involved in the joint between the hull and deck.
Thanks again,
Chris M15 Persephone
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Chris
Try to hoist the boat up enough to slide the trailer out. Lift the boat from a harness attached to the chain plates, bow cleat and the stern
bridle.
Perhaps built a simple 4x4 box over the front and back?...Jack it up a bit (4 inches), tie it off and roll the trailer away. Do most of your sanding and prep work first. Good luck.
Bob
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:50:48 -0500 From: chris.r.smith@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: monterey race
Jerry, Bob or anyone else: I'm still in the process of painting my boat, and I've gotten lots of good advice here, so let me ask:
Are there any good strongpoints for jacking up a M15? Also, how big of contact points should I have with the hull?
I would like to get it up off the trailer to put the Prime coat on it and creating a frame in the garage to support the weight seems a bit untenable - perhaps it'd be simpler than jacking it up! In moving around the boat on the trailer with by standing up under it (I'm still kinda young...) it seems there are some areas that flex quite a bit more than others. Perhaps > this is a sign of something else...
Anyway, here are some photos of my progress.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Chris.R.Smith/BoatProgress#
Thanks for the help!
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Does anybody know the date of the Monterey Potter race? I use to have the website but my computor ate it.
tha nks
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