HI John, Do you have a reef point in the present jib you are flying? How has that worked out? I considered a storm jib for my M17 as well, but, in practice, have never really needed one. On the other hand, Dick Lane's M23 came with a Pineapple storm jib, which I have used many times. It's 6.8 oz material if memory serves. Happy Holidays M-boaters and Jerry and Bob! Bones ________________________________________________________________ Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give