less than a 10% increase in windward performance compared to the board being up or down
Random thoughts without any hard data to back them up: I sailed Umiaq for a while with the centerboard either jammed up or missing. Although I wouldn't care to put a number on it, It made a big difference when beating to windward. Enough that I was really glad to get it working again. It's possible that the boat seemed a little more tender without the board, but I can't feel any difference up or down (although I'm far from being an expert). There are some quite large boats whose designers decided it was worth the trouble of putting a lightweight centerboard inside a ballast keel. Having said that, they could be right. I'm wondering what you would compare... Velocity Made Good? Angle of leeway? Readout on the Fun-o-meter? Come to think of it, 10% might be quite a lot -- beating your nearest competitor by 6 minutes after a one hour race would definitely earn the centerboard's keep! For an idea of the forces involved, consider a Laser with a centerboard about the size of the board on an M-15. Sail on a beat with the board up, and note that you're going sideways. Now push the board down and note the immediate difference: You're not going sideways any more. It won't be anywhere near as obvious when the board is combined with a keel, but that would give you a feel for what the board can contribute. Giles Morris
Similar story to Giles - M15 - lost the CB of of Nantuckt Is on 4 day cruise. Ideal winds ( steady 12 kts) but on the nose. 1 kt current on the nose. full main and working jib. GPS speed over ground 4kts. forward progress upwind after tacking back and forth for an hour = 0. I went to Hyannis instead as it was a beam reach :) You might do a little better in the M17 but I would not intentionally cruise without a CB unless i had a lot of gas. Doug Kelch M15 "Seas the Day" --- "Morris, Giles" <giles.morris@unisys.com> wrote:
less than a 10% increase in windward performance compared to the board being up or down
Random thoughts without any hard data to back them up:
I sailed Umiaq for a while with the centerboard either jammed up or missing. Although I wouldn't care to put a number on it, It made a big difference when beating to windward.
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Yes! I thought it a little hard to swallow too that's why I decided to get the others on the groups opinion. I had a 24 Seafarer Yacht out of Long Island NY in 1970. It was truly a great boat, it finally went as far as St Thomas. Virgin Island. But although it was mostly a "centerboard boat" and comparison is like oranges and apples the boat did not prefer well at all with the board being at least 50% Down. By the way the 24 Seafarer behaved very badly in a short hard chop like the Gulf Stream even with board all the way down.
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