Happy New Year M-boaters, from the shores of beautiful, but very cold, Lake Michigan! I just took out and looked at the sails for my "new" old M15 for the first time last night. It's just a main and a jib. I was kind of hoping they would look better than they do. They look pretty well used and worn -- around some stress points they seem to be worn partly through. I've never had to purchase sails before. -- I'm just wondering (if anyone happens to know) about how much might I expect to have to pay for a new set? Also, is there a wide variation in price for different makers (i.e., will it pay off to shop around a lot?) Will it be a huge mistake to order from the lowest bidder? Should I order from someone locally (UK Sailmakers is in Chicago--from their website they LOOK expensive!) or does that matter? Any advice appreciated. Steve M15 #152
Steve, it definitely pays to shop around. When I was looking for a new main and genoa for my former ComPac 19, I got prices from three or four of the nationally known sail lofts with offices in Detroit, as well as a very good local loft. The local loft was fully competitive and about 40% less than the highest bid. I sold the boat before replacing the sails, however. But two sailing buddies replaced their sails the same summer. One used UK and the other , the local loft. There was no appreciable difference, but the local loft included a new sail cover. In Chicago, you should have your choice of several national lofts and a number of locals. Good luck on your search. Russ Browne P.J. Puddlejumper SunCat #16 Sailing the prairie lakes in Nebraska --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings.
Check out Sailrite for a kit. They make excellent kits, I've used several. You can get a quote online. Anyone know the dimensions of a cruising spinaker for the M-15? Ken Abrahams ----- Original Message ----- From: <Steve_McClellan@hmco.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:40 AM Subject: M_Boats: M15 Sails
Happy New Year M-boaters, from the shores of beautiful, but very cold,
Lake
Michigan!
I just took out and looked at the sails for my "new" old M15 for the first time last night. It's just a main and a jib.
I was kind of hoping they would look better than they do. They look pretty well used and worn -- around some stress points they seem to be worn partly through.
I've never had to purchase sails before. -- I'm just wondering (if anyone happens to know) about how much might I expect to have to pay for a new set?
Also, is there a wide variation in price for different makers (i.e., will it pay off to shop around a lot?) Will it be a huge mistake to order from the lowest bidder?
Should I order from someone locally (UK Sailmakers is in Chicago--from their website they LOOK expensive!) or does that matter?
Any advice appreciated.
Steve M15 #152
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I checked both web sites and didn't see the measurements. Does anyone know the required measurements needed to order new sails for the M15? Thanks...
I assume that if my old centerboard fit nicely into the space that a new one would too. They should be the same size, right. So on a boat that had the issue of a new centerboard not fitting, how did the old one fit?
David, Before I lost my old centerboard in my M15 it would not retract all the way into the housing. It always extend below the well at a slight angle, 2 - 5 degrees. The centerboard would carry some weight on the center roller on the trailer. I thought this was normal. When the new centerboard installed and custom fit it retracts almost all the way into the centerboard and the leading edge is exposed about 1/2 inch, parallel to the centerboard well. It is 1 inch above the roller on the trailer. My trailer roller are V shaped with a 2 inch wide 1/4 inch depression at the center. Thanks, Doug "Seas the Day" --- David Rossi <David.Rossi@wcom.com> wrote:
I assume that if my old centerboard fit nicely into the space that a new one would too. They should be the same size, right. So on a boat that had the issue of a new centerboard not fitting, how did the old one fit?
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David, I bought my boat on consignment at an area boatyard in the middle of February. On her maided voyage the following May I discovered that the centerboard was firmly wedged in the up position (word of advice to new sailors and first time boat buyers...make sure the damn board goes up and down BEFORE you buy the boat!). I laugh now to think that I tried diving under the boat with a screw driver to pry the board loose! I eventually ended up drilling a hole in the bottom edge of the board. inserting a clevus pin and jacking the board out of the slot with a car jack. While deciding on a plan of action, I called Hooper at Hooper's Yachts near Minneapolis. He told me that the earlier Montys used iron shot as ballast in the centerboards, and that mine had probably swelled. He also said that some boatbuilders also added ballast into the centerboard trunk as well, which could conceivably cause the slot to swell also. I don't know if the Montgomerys used iron shot in the trunk, but it might be something to consider. Dale "Sophie Mae" M15 #185
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I assume that if my old centerboard fit nicely into the space that a new one would too. They should be the same size, right. So on a boat that had the issue of a new centerboard not fitting, how did the old one fit?
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I've seen a web page with the dimensions for the M17 sails but none for the M15. Suggest you contact Nor'Sea Yachts where the M-6'8", M-15s, M-17s and M-23s are currently being manufactured. http://www.montgomeryboats.com/ Stan M-15, #177, Carol II
Check the MSOG resource link. It has several names of sailmakers that already have all the M boat specs.
Kern's Sails built me a set in the spring of '99. Kern Ferguson has been recommended by Jerry M. and Bob Eeg, and of course has M-boat specs. The original quote for 5 oz. main and jib was $600. I paid a bit more, adding full battens, tanbark material and extra reef points to main and jib. Hope this is helpful. Bill Riker M-15 #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Howard A Sent: January 04, 2002 6:50 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Sails Check the MSOG resource link. It has several names of sailmakers that already have all the M boat specs. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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