Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace.
Hi Mitch....I posted some photos of Dan Phy's solution to running lines aft on his new Montgomery 17. Click on this link: http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1182 Keeping the reefing lines on the boom is a good idea; also you can add a small line for a Jib downhaul along the toerail. Fair winds. Bob
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:35:40 -0700 From: mitch_carnes@sbcglobal.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Bob, I have the identical setup on my NS27, except that the jib halyard ends at a winch instead of a cam cleat; has worked perfectly for years. On the M, however, I am trying to keep the smaller cabin roof clear. On my Potter 14 I have the setup shown in Dan's photos for both the throat halyard and the yard halyard (gaff rig, you know), and I have caught my foot under the lines going forward. Tom Jenkins On Mar 21, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Bob From California wrote:
Hi Mitch....I posted some photos of Dan Phy's solution to running lines aft on his new Montgomery 17.
Click on this link:
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1182
Keeping the reefing lines on the boom is a good idea; also you can add a small line for a Jib downhaul along the toerail.
Fair winds. Bob
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:35:40 -0700 From: mitch_carnes@sbcglobal.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Thanks Bob, this is a great picture(s). I have gotten half way there running my halyards to the cockpit by putting a line organizer under the mast step but had not put in any cleats. I had planned on clutches (pricey) but I have a couple cam cleats like you show sitting in my box so I will use those. Thanks again for sharing! Robbin Bob From California wrote:
Hi Mitch....I posted some photos of Dan Phy's solution to running lines aft on his new Montgomery 17.
Click on this link:
http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1182
Keeping the reefing lines on the boom is a good idea; also you can add a small line for a Jib downhaul along the toerail.
Fair winds. Bob
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:35:40 -0700 From: mitch_carnes@sbcglobal.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Mitch, I have mounted small blocks and jam cleats for the two aft reefing points on the starboard side of the boom, and anchored the lines on eye straps opposite. For the forward reef points, I mounted a block with becket on either side just aft of the gooseneck, with a jam cleat for each far enough back to reach from the cockpit. The line for each block is anchored on the opposite block. Seems to work fine, and the mast is cleared. I then purchased (but have not yet mounted) a Ronstan "Swivel 180 swivelling cleat platform with C- cleat" (RONST #RF5) which in theory should take the main halyard from the present cleat location on the starboard mast and turn it aft to the cockpit, with an integral cam cleat to secure it. You might consider this route, because it should avoid deck clutter. I think Jim Ellsworth uses the same cleat/ platform on the mast for his jib halyard, so he might chime in if he is listening. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Mitch Carnes wrote:
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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I've run my halyard back to the cockpit. I used a single block mounted to the coach roof and turned it back to a spinlock jamb. It works real well. I've been very happy with it. I have a CDI furler so I don't use the jib halyard. If I can figure out how to send pictures, I will. I mounted all my reefing hardware and lines on the boom which has been very simple and easy to use. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mitch Carnes To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Everyone....Joe sent me some photos of his set up and I posted them on Trailersailor.com. Thanks Joe....!! Here take a look. And one of Joe doing the barrier coat on the bottom of SEAFROG..! http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1183 Fair winds. Bob Eeg. (949) 489-8227
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:33:28 -0400 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
I've run my halyard back to the cockpit. I used a single block mounted to the coach roof and turned it back to a spinlock jamb. It works real well. I've been very happy with it. I have a CDI furler so I don't use the jib halyard. If I can figure out how to send pictures, I will. I mounted all my reefing hardware and lines on the boom which has been very simple and easy to use. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mitch Carnes To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Putting on the 3 coats of expoxy barrier paint was fun .....right along afterwards with the three coats of ablative bottom paint........damn wrinkles!!!! I get to do it again next week. Yahoo!! Joe Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob From California To: Monty Listserver Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit Everyone....Joe sent me some photos of his set up and I posted them on Trailersailor.com. Thanks Joe....!! Here take a look. And one of Joe doing the barrier coat on the bottom of SEAFROG..! http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1183 Fair winds. Bob Eeg. (949) 489-8227
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:33:28 -0400 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
I've run my halyard back to the cockpit. I used a single block mounted to the coach roof and turned it back to a spinlock jamb. It works real well. I've been very happy with it. I have a CDI furler so I don't use the jib halyard. If I can figure out how to send pictures, I will. I mounted all my reefing hardware and lines on the boom which has been very simple and easy to use. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mitch Carnes To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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I see a block attached to the mast base in this picture..... I like that idea! Can you expound on how you did that? I find drilling holes in boats fraught with peril. After all, "what is a hole in a boat? A place where water gets in!" Besides, I can barely bring myself to consider punching a hole in Bob's fine artwork. I plan on avoiding it where ever possible, --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 12:24 AM Putting on the 3 coats of expoxy barrier paint was fun .....right along afterwards with the three coats of ablative bottom paint........damn wrinkles!!!! I get to do it again next week. Yahoo!! Joe Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob From California To: Monty Listserver Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit Everyone....Joe sent me some photos of his set up and I posted them on Trailersailor.com. Thanks Joe....!! Here take a look. And one of Joe doing the barrier coat on the bottom of SEAFROG..! http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1183 Fair winds. Bob Eeg. (949) 489-8227 > From: seagray@embarqmail.com > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:33:28 -0400 > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit > > I've run my halyard back to the cockpit. I used a single block mounted to the coach roof and turned it back to a spinlock jamb. It works real well. I've been very happy with it. I have a CDI furler so I don't use the jib halyard. If I can figure out how to send pictures, I will. > I mounted all my reefing hardware and lines on the boom which has been very simple and easy to use. > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mitch Carnes > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:35 AM > Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit > > > Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? > I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. > Mitch M17 656 Grace. > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Nothing really to be afraid of. When I drill a hole in the coach roof I start with a 3/8" hole. Then I put a roofing nail in my drill and rout out the wood. What I'm trying to acheive is a 3/8" hole in the top and bottom fiberglass with about a 7/8" of the wood all routed out. I put some tape underneath and pour in two part Westsystem epoxy. When it hardens drill a hole the size of the bolt; lather it up with BoatCaulk, NOT 5200!! Sounds like overkill but to me it's worth it. You can get sample sizes of the 2 part WestSystem. One sample size was enough for me to fill the holes for the turning block and the Spinlock camcleat. Joe M17 Seafrog #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mitch Carnes To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit I see a block attached to the mast base in this picture..... I like that idea! Can you expound on how you did that? I find drilling holes in boats fraught with peril. After all, "what is a hole in a boat? A place where water gets in!" Besides, I can barely bring myself to consider punching a hole in Bob's fine artwork. I plan on avoiding it where ever possible, --- On Mon, 3/22/10, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010, 12:24 AM Putting on the 3 coats of expoxy barrier paint was fun .....right along afterwards with the three coats of ablative bottom paint........damn wrinkles!!!! I get to do it again next week. Yahoo!! Joe Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob From California To: Monty Listserver Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit Everyone....Joe sent me some photos of his set up and I posted them on Trailersailor.com. Thanks Joe....!! Here take a look. And one of Joe doing the barrier coat on the bottom of SEAFROG..! http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1183 Fair winds. Bob Eeg. (949) 489-8227
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:33:28 -0400 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
I've run my halyard back to the cockpit. I used a single block mounted to the coach roof and turned it back to a spinlock jamb. It works real well. I've been very happy with it. I have a CDI furler so I don't use the jib halyard. If I can figure out how to send pictures, I will. I mounted all my reefing hardware and lines on the boom which has been very simple and easy to use. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mitch Carnes To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: M_Boats: Running halyards to cockpit
Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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mitch: i've posted comment with pictures of SWEET PEA's setup for running halyards aft in the 'trailer sailer' montgomery sub-forum. link here - http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1185/ dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Sun, 3/21/10, Mitch Carnes <mitch_carnes@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Has anyone run their halyards aft on their M17? I'd intended to use a pair of double pulley deck organizers to make the turn aft but am finding they fit awkwardly between the hand rails and hatch slides on the cabin roof. I'm thinking I have room for only a single cheek block on each side of the cabin roof. I had hoped to run halyards and reefing lines to the cockpit. I'm now thinking maybe I'll only run the Halyards back, and put the reefing line on the boom. Any input? I also think if I do boom mounted reefing line I might use a hook on a line turning through a cheek block to a cleat on the boom. Mitch M17 656 Grace.
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