Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 69, Issue 37
Bill... You have done a fabulous job on the photo web site! I understand the change in circumstances for you and honor the time you have contributed in this endeavor which has clearly helped so many of us. I too am willing to donate money to try to keep this information available to all. However, I am wondering if there might be another solution as well? Not being much of a technofile (don't even know if that is a word...but you all get the point), I am wondering if the photos might be transferred to the Yahoo Groups that we already have in place for our owners database? I know other Yahoo groups that I belong to have photo file sections, and also data base sections for users to upload technical data, brochure copies...etc. Could this be possible? It would be a shame to lose the information and images that have been gathered, and like Andrei has previously posted, I am sure few of us have the ability nor the time to upload all the photos. However, as I said, I am more than willing to contribute to the funding of a solution. Many thanks, Bill for your tireless and clearly unheralded efforts! Best, JB "Seranita" 1978 M-17 Mission Bay Yacht Club San Diego -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:02 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 69, Issue 37 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Photo Site Closes December 15, 2008 (Andrei Caldararu) 2. (no subject) (kdocter@bellsouth.net) 3. Re: antifouling bottom wax and fresh water? (RKGraves) 4. Re: antifouling bottom wax and fresh water? (EinkaufR43@aol.com) 5. Re: (no subject) (Bill Lamica) 6. Re: (no subject) (Joe Murphy) 7. Re: (no subject) (jerry) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0600 From: Andrei Caldararu <andreic@math.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Photo Site Closes December 15, 2008 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <90473DC5-BB77-4D59-B15A-7930CAA40EF1@math.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello all, is there any way we could somehow save the data of the site in some sort of archive? It will take me too long to download the whole site one photo at a time, but if I got the whole archive I might be able to put it up somewhere on my own web site, so that it is not entirely lost. Andrei. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:04:33 +0000 From: kdocter@bellsouth.net Subject: M_Boats: (no subject) To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <111720081504.492.492188010006358D000001EC22230680329B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A 0DBF9D0A9B0C010B05@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain Bill, What is the financial burden to maintain the site?I'd like to see it stay active. Any way that is possible? Kendall ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:45:01 -0800 From: RKGraves <RKGraves@cite.nic.edu> Subject: Re: M_Boats: antifouling bottom wax and fresh water? To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <A7875813589AE240854B10B3891F2F777039696EA2@Exch1.cite.nic.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ron, This past summer I used VS721 on the bottom on our M17. The boat was in a fresh water slip from May - Sept. We live in the Northern part of Idaho and our water temp is typically in the 50's for most of the summer, mid-60's for July and August. In prior years I did not put anything on the bottom for antifouling protection. Overall I was pleased with the results of VS721. I didn't stop bottom growth from happening (I do think it slowed it down) but it certainly made cleaning the bottom much easier as the end of the season. A little bit of VS721 goes a long ways. A 16oz bottle is enough for 4 applications below the water line. Randy Graves M17 #410 Post Falls, ID ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of EinkaufR43@aol.com [EinkaufR43@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:55 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: antifouling bottom wax and fresh water? I'll be slipping my clean bottomed M-15 for some of next season on the improved but not pristine Saginaw River, near the mouth of the Saginaw Bay. That's Lake Huron to non-Great Lakes folks. My boat has no bottom paint, and I'm willing to expend some effort to keep it that way. If only to preserve my options for a while. . Something should be better than nothing. The supplier ads make it sound like they're made with hi-tech chemicals, but I'm forming the opinion they are pretty much just thick Canadian approved wax . Having studied up a bit, mostly at TrailerSailor, I find mixed reviews leading me to hold hopeful, but still somewhat minimal expectations of these two products: Aurora VS721 Bottom Coat, and Easy On Bottom Wax. Does anyone have fresh water experience with, or preference for, either of these products, or an alternative they'd like to share? I'm currently inclined to try the VS721, and have located a nearby dealer. It seems West may have Easy On. I'm following the awning/boom tent discussions, and plan to deploy something come spring. Finally, a thank you to Bill for his efforts! Ron Stanton, near Saginaw M-15 #249 **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redi r=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:51:42 EST From: EinkaufR43@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: antifouling bottom wax and fresh water? To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <d59.31406274.3652fb1e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Randy; Thanks! That's the first-hand report I'd hoped to receive! I expect our river is warmer, and gunkier, but it's worth a try. Ron, in Michigan M-15 #249 In a message dated 11/17/2008 10:45:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, RKGraves@cite.nic.edu writes: Ron, This past summer I used VS721 on the bottom on our M17. The boat was in a fresh water slip from May - Sept. We live in the Northern part of Idaho and our water temp is typically in the 50's for most of the summer, mid-60's for July and August. In prior years I did not put anything on the bottom for antifouling protection. Overall I was pleased with the results of VS721. I didn't stop bottom growth from happening (I do think it slowed it down) but it certainly made cleaning the bottom much easier as the end of the season. A little bit of VS721 goes a long ways. A 16oz bottle is enough for 4 applications below the water line. Randy Graves M17 #410 Post Falls, ID ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of EinkaufR43@aol.com [EinkaufR43@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:55 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: antifouling bottom wax and fresh water? I'll be slipping my clean bottomed M-15 for some of next season on the improved but not pristine Saginaw River, near the mouth of the Saginaw Bay. That's Lake Huron to non-Great Lakes folks. My boat has no bottom paint, and I'm willing to expend some effort to keep it that way. If only to preserve my options for a while. . Something should be better than nothing. The supplier ads make it sound like they're made with hi-tech chemicals, but I'm forming the opinion they are pretty much just thick Canadian approved wax . Having studied up a bit, mostly at TrailerSailor, I find mixed reviews leading me to hold hopeful, but still somewhat minimal expectations of these two products: Aurora VS721 Bottom Coat, and Easy On Bottom Wax. Does anyone have fresh water experience with, or preference for, either of these products, or an alternative they'd like to share? I'm currently inclined to try the VS721, and have located a nearby dealer. It seems West may have Easy On. I'm following the awning/boom tent discussions, and plan to deploy something come spring. Finally, a thank you to Bill for his efforts! Ron Stanton, near Saginaw M-15 #249 **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redi r= htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redi r=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:17:38 -0800 From: "Bill Lamica" <billamicasr@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <3018b6c40811170917n1c356723q53ef9cf9c10ee00f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, The cost to keep it published for the next 12 months will run right at $360.00. There would be no "what's new", "Donations" "Contact me" or "links" page. With my new project I'll have limited Internet use (E-mail) for the next year or maybe more. This means I wont be able to fix links. In addition; The site photo limit has been reached. In order to continue with more photos I would have to turn all of the Maintenance pages into PDF files. Or, open a sub-site (more money) linked from the current site. Either way, it's not doable. The site would remain pretty much as it is. Other ideas have been put forth. Who knows what will occur in the near future. Bill On 11/17/08, kdocter@bellsouth.net <kdocter@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Bill, What is the financial burden to maintain the site?I'd like to see it stay active. Any way that is possible? Kendall _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:19:17 -0500 From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <F35AF7FF45504DA287D60DC50B63D7B0@D72VSMG1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If it is a financial issue, I would be happy to chip in to keep the site going. Joe Seafrog M-17 ----- Original Message ----- From: <kdocter@bellsouth.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: M_Boats: (no subject)
Bill, What is the financial burden to maintain the site?I'd like to see it stay active. Any way that is possible? Kendall _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:02:23 -0800 From: "jerry" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <83748444A5EF4BDDB57C492DA8689844@DDJ69SD1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original How about putting the pix on a CD? I'd be happy to buy one. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
If it is a financial issue, I would be happy to chip in to keep the site going. Joe Seafrog M-17 ----- Original Message ----- From: <kdocter@bellsouth.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: M_Boats: (no subject)
Bill, What is the financial burden to maintain the site?I'd like to see it stay active. Any way that is possible? Kendall _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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