After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!! Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry. I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home. Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal? Thanks Erik in Ohio Sent from my iPhone
I can't say I know anything about this boat, but I love the ones in bold colours like this one. The yellow looks really good. Art On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 1:34 PM E Blohm via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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Yes I already have the name “Banana Split” Hopefully the keel is not split!!! Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2022, at 13:51, Sailing Spark <arthaberland@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't say I know anything about this boat, but I love the ones in bold colours like this one. The yellow looks really good.
Art
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 1:34 PM E Blohm via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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On Jun 18, 2022, at 13:57, E Blohm <eblohm@rocketmail.com> wrote:
Yes I already have the name “Banana Split”
Hopefully the keel is not split!!!
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On Jun 18, 2022, at 13:51, Sailing Spark <arthaberland@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't say I know anything about this boat, but I love the ones in bold colours like this one. The yellow looks really good.
Art
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 1:34 PM E Blohm via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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Hi Erik, That sounds like a great deal for an M17. What sort of an outboard is that? The owner probably painted it to match the boat color. If you are going to buy it, then let me recommend that you take along wrenches, a bottle jack and a 12" square of 1"thick plywood as a base for the jack if the road shoulder is soft, and you have to remove the trailer wheel. Don't forget a lug wrench, and a piece of pipe to increase the pressure for loosening lug nuts. Also take along a can of WD40 or other rusty nut loosener if you encounter a tire problem. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO On 6/18/2022 12:34 PM, E Blohm via montgomery_boats wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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Congrats, Eric. Looks like you finally found your boat. Use a screw driver handle to tap the deck around all the thru deck fittings. That is where the water gets in and rots the balsa core. It can be fixed but plan on lying on your back in the v-berth and working overhead. My boat hull #258 was a 1977 also. There is a little bit of play up and down with the centerboard. Climb aboard and with a winch handle try to lift the centerboard. If it is tight and cleated off, try to simply let the lanyard go and see if it thunks just a tiny bit. That will tell you that the board will move in the slot. Another biggie. Given the history of this boat it sounds like you will be ok due to its being used mostly in fresh water. "Hopefully". I sold mine to a gent who had a Monty 17 for decades so I knew he knew how to sail one. Good luck with yours! Fair winds. Tom <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 12:34 PM E Blohm via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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Thomas! Thanks a bunch for suggestions! Erik Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2022, at 14:31, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats, Eric. Looks like you finally found your boat. Use a screw driver handle to tap the deck around all the thru deck fittings. That is where the water gets in and rots the balsa core. It can be fixed but plan on lying on your back in the v-berth and working overhead. My boat hull #258 was a 1977 also. There is a little bit of play up and down with the centerboard. Climb aboard and with a winch handle try to lift the centerboard. If it is tight and cleated off, try to simply let the lanyard go and see if it thunks just a tiny bit. That will tell you that the board will move in the slot. Another biggie. Given the history of this boat it sounds like you will be ok due to its being used mostly in fresh water. "Hopefully". I sold mine to a gent who had a Monty 17 for decades so I knew he knew how to sail one. Good luck with yours! Fair winds. Tom
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On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 12:34 PM E Blohm via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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Erik, I too do not now anything specific about this particular boat but I thought I could offer up some free advice. Is the trailer road worthy? 7 hours is a long time to trailer something that has been sitting outside for 6 years. You might want to be prepared and take a set of wheel bearing with you along with a can of bearing grease. You may also want to be prepared to temporarily rewire the lights. Harbor Freight sells a cheap set of temporary trailering lights which are magnetic. Just remember, this advice is worth every bit of what you paid for it! 😉 Skip M-15 #201
On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:17 PM, E Blohm via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
Sent from my iPhone
Yeah the trailer condition is important, when you're about to haul it a day's drive...I did that with mine when I got it, from Maple Valley WA to Ashland, OR, 450 miles, mostly on interstate 5. Check the tires...have a pump with you in case they are low. If the sidewalls are significantly cracked or worse yet rotted you might want to get new tires locally before starting a long haul. I got lucky I think with mine...just pumped them up and went, they were old but didn't look that bad. But a few months after I got it home, the spare spontaneously sprung a sidewall...! Check the lug nuts also. If you are a bit handy, bearings are easy to sanity-check, you can't tell fine points but if they are really wrecked you can tell, and if not really wrecked they will probably make a day's haul. Jack one side at a time off the ground - put blocks/chocks on the opposite side! Spin the wheel and listen - beware, if it sounds dry and rattly! Smooth and greasy is what we want. Grab the tire 180 degrees apart (fore-aft, as well as top-bottom) and see if you can wiggle/rock it on the axle - is there play in the bearings beyond a very slight amount? A little click-click will not be fatal in the short term - unless they are also dry/rattly. A lot of play, and/or dry/rattly sounds, could be risky to do a long haul without getting the bearings re-done. It will cost more if you're stuck on the side of the road, vs. towing it to a local trailer shop proactively. Congratulations! cheers, John On 6/18/22 11:39, WILLIAM CAMPION via montgomery_boats wrote:
Erik,
I too do not now anything specific about this particular boat but I thought I could offer up some free advice. Is the trailer road worthy? 7 hours is a long time to trailer something that has been sitting outside for 6 years. You might want to be prepared and take a set of wheel bearing with you along with a can of bearing grease. You may also want to be prepared to temporarily rewire the lights. Harbor Freight sells a cheap set of temporary trailering lights which are magnetic. Just remember, this advice is worth every bit of what you paid for it! 😉
Skip M-15 #201
On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:17 PM, E Blohm via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
Sent from my iPhone
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As noted be sure to check the tires and hubs. Here are links to my prior discussions on these topics - https://m17-375.com/2019/03/31/trailer-tire-lifespan-is-short/ https://m17-375.com/2019/03/28/safer-trailering-tires/ https://m17-375.com/2019/03/26/safer-trailering-hubs/ Also discussion about securing boat & standing rig to trailer - https://m17-375.com/2019/04/02/safe-trailering-securing-boat-mast-to-trailer... :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com <<-- FOR SALE! :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 12:12 PM John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yeah the trailer condition is important, when you're about to haul it a day's drive...I did that with mine when I got it, from Maple Valley WA to Ashland, OR, 450 miles, mostly on interstate 5.
Check the tires...have a pump with you in case they are low. If the sidewalls are significantly cracked or worse yet rotted you might want to get new tires locally before starting a long haul. I got lucky I think with mine...just pumped them up and went, they were old but didn't look that bad. But a few months after I got it home, the spare spontaneously sprung a sidewall...! Check the lug nuts also.
If you are a bit handy, bearings are easy to sanity-check, you can't tell fine points but if they are really wrecked you can tell, and if not really wrecked they will probably make a day's haul. Jack one side at a time off the ground - put blocks/chocks on the opposite side! Spin the wheel and listen - beware, if it sounds dry and rattly! Smooth and greasy is what we want. Grab the tire 180 degrees apart (fore-aft, as well as top-bottom) and see if you can wiggle/rock it on the axle - is there play in the bearings beyond a very slight amount? A little click-click will not be fatal in the short term - unless they are also dry/rattly. A lot of play, and/or dry/rattly sounds, could be risky to do a long haul without getting the bearings re-done. It will cost more if you're stuck on the side of the road, vs. towing it to a local trailer shop proactively.
Congratulations!
cheers, John
On 6/18/22 11:39, WILLIAM CAMPION via montgomery_boats wrote:
Erik,
I too do not now anything specific about this particular boat but I thought I could offer up some free advice. Is the trailer road worthy? 7 hours is a long time to trailer something that has been sitting outside for 6 years. You might want to be prepared and take a set of wheel bearing with you along with a can of bearing grease. You may also want to be prepared to temporarily rewire the lights. Harbor Freight sells a cheap set of temporary trailering lights which are magnetic. Just remember, this advice is worth every bit of what you paid for it! 😉
Skip M-15 #201
On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:17 PM, E Blohm via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry.
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter.
If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
Yes sir! Good advice. The trailer has new tires (I was told) bearing buddies and grease gun going with me) I’ll checkout HF lights. Erik Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2022, at 14:39, WILLIAM CAMPION via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Erik,
I too do not now anything specific about this particular boat but I thought I could offer up some free advice. Is the trailer road worthy? 7 hours is a long time to trailer something that has been sitting outside for 6 years. You might want to be prepared and take a set of wheel bearing with you along with a can of bearing grease. You may also want to be prepared to temporarily rewire the lights. Harbor Freight sells a cheap set of temporary trailering lights which are magnetic. Just remember, this advice is worth every bit of what you paid for it! 😉
Skip M-15 #201
On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:17 PM, E Blohm via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
After looking for a reasonable distance M17 (7 hours) I finally found one and plan to drive out to check it out/buy this coming Tuesday
The 1977 M17 hull number 248# is being sold by the family of the elderly sailor. They know nothing about the boat other than it’s been sitting in his yard for 6 years since he last sailed it on Lake Michigan They are asking $4000 and I counter offered $3600 foolishly!!!
Anyway they sent a bunch of internal and external pictures the hull looks solid the interior-floor-walls looks dry. <image0.png> <image1.png>
I expect to replace standing-running rigging over this coming winter. If deck is solid and keel looks “normal” I’ll probably drag it home.
Anyone know anything about this boat? Or any recommendations about this deal?
Thanks Erik in Ohio
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