Hi all, I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast. My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it. Has anyone done this before? Any advice? Thanks, Erik
That sounds pretty dangerous, I might consider a different boat or lake. Randy M17 No Worries Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 5:48 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Clearing a railroad trestle Hi all, I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast. My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it. Has anyone done this before? Any advice? Thanks, Erik
I knew a man who took a 35' sloop through the Caloosahatchee canal. He used a hard dinghy hung from the mast and filled it with water till he cleared the bridge. -----Original Message----- From: Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2018 3:48 pm Subject: M_Boats: Clearing a railroad trestle Hi all, I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast. My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it. Has anyone done this before? Any advice? Thanks, Erik
That’s exactly what I have in mind (but smaller than a dinghy). Jerry - how much weight do you think is needed?
On Aug 4, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Sandman <sandyal55@aol.com> wrote:
I knew a man who took a 35' sloop through the Caloosahatchee canal. He used a hard dinghy hung from the mast and filled it with water till he cleared the bridge.
-----Original Message----- From: Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2018 3:48 pm Subject: M_Boats: Clearing a railroad trestle
Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
Hi Erik, All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know. My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon.... Burt Surry, Maine On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then. On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
Hi Burt, Good idea. If I cannot make this work I may have to look at a different boat / rig. Thanks, Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then.
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
A Sage 17 is a pretty nice boat. I would say the risk associated with something happening is not worth the benefit gained of making it under that bridge. Not to mention the risk to personal safety.... Just my two cents..... Gerry
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Burt,
Good idea. If I cannot make this work I may have to look at a different boat / rig.
Thanks, Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then.
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
Baby stays & tilting mast back is not an option? Just curious...I've heard of some people partially (or fully) lowering the mast to get under bridges. In fact I know a Potter 19 that lives in the water behind a low bridge. At the dock it lives with mast down...has to motor under the bridge & then tie up at a dock & raise mast. Reverse when coming back home. If done carefully it somehow seems less risky than the heeling method, but that's just my theoretical imagining... cheers, John S. On 08/05/2018 12:04 PM, Gerald Wyatt wrote:
A Sage 17 is a pretty nice boat. I would say the risk associated with something happening is not worth the benefit gained of making it under that bridge. Not to mention the risk to personal safety....
Just my two cents.....
Gerry
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Burt,
Good idea. If I cannot make this work I may have to look at a different boat / rig.
Thanks, Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then.
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
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Hi John, Hinging the mast to lower forward as I had on a prior boat was my first idea. Quick adjust turnbuckles on the stays and then I could use the boom as a gin pole. I’ll need to take some more measurements but appreciate all the input. Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:29 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Baby stays & tilting mast back is not an option? Just curious...I've heard of some people partially (or fully) lowering the mast to get under bridges.
In fact I know a Potter 19 that lives in the water behind a low bridge. At the dock it lives with mast down...has to motor under the bridge & then tie up at a dock & raise mast. Reverse when coming back home.
If done carefully it somehow seems less risky than the heeling method, but that's just my theoretical imagining...
cheers, John S.
On 08/05/2018 12:04 PM, Gerald Wyatt wrote: A Sage 17 is a pretty nice boat. I would say the risk associated with something happening is not worth the benefit gained of making it under that bridge. Not to mention the risk to personal safety.... Just my two cents..... Gerry
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Burt,
Good idea. If I cannot make this work I may have to look at a different boat / rig.
Thanks, Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then.
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
On the M-23's we used to rig up a device to raise and lower the mast forward, resting it on the pulpit. We copied it from a rigger that did some work in Hunting Harbor, which was/is between Hunting Beach and Long Beach, and boats living there need to go under the Pacific Coast Hiway bridge. The boom is used as a gin pole and the critical part is the fact that the shrouds don't keep a constant tension as the mast goes up, since the chainplates and the mast step aren't on the same axis. We would splice a triangle into each shroud on the same axis as the mast step, and to these triangles we'd run a wire on each side to eyes on the boom, which would adjust tension on the shrouds automatically. The mainsheet suppied plenty of power to raise/lower the mast. It would be more complicated on a Sage or an M-15,because the chainplates are further aft, but a smart 7th grade geometry student could probably figure it out. Not me. Actually, 22' would need not that much heeling, and two people on the lee coaming just might do it. If you live in an area where it usually blows. it wouldn't bother me to cut a foot off the mast, it that would do it. you'd need to re-cut the main, of course. A gaff or sliding gunter would be neat, but would mean a new rig, and at least a new main. -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Wyatt Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:04 PM To: Erik Stavrand ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Clearing a railroad trestle A Sage 17 is a pretty nice boat. I would say the risk associated with something happening is not worth the benefit gained of making it under that bridge. Not to mention the risk to personal safety.... Just my two cents..... Gerry
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Burt,
Good idea. If I cannot make this work I may have to look at a different boat / rig.
Thanks, Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then.
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
Hi Jerry, Exactly - that’s how we had our Voyager 26 rigged and I could easily lower the mast by myself. I’ll trust the geometry to my wife... Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:41 PM, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
On the M-23's we used to rig up a device to raise and lower the mast forward, resting it on the pulpit. We copied it from a rigger that did some work in Hunting Harbor, which was/is between Hunting Beach and Long Beach, and boats living there need to go under the Pacific Coast Hiway bridge. The boom is used as a gin pole and the critical part is the fact that the shrouds don't keep a constant tension as the mast goes up, since the chainplates and the mast step aren't on the same axis. We would splice a triangle into each shroud on the same axis as the mast step, and to these triangles we'd run a wire on each side to eyes on the boom, which would adjust tension on the shrouds automatically. The mainsheet suppied plenty of power to raise/lower the mast.
It would be more complicated on a Sage or an M-15,because the chainplates are further aft, but a smart 7th grade geometry student could probably figure it out. Not me.
Actually, 22' would need not that much heeling, and two people on the lee coaming just might do it. If you live in an area where it usually blows. it wouldn't bother me to cut a foot off the mast, it that would do it. you'd need to re-cut the main, of course. A gaff or sliding gunter would be neat, but would mean a new rig, and at least a new main.
-----Original Message----- From: Gerald Wyatt Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:04 PM To: Erik Stavrand ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Clearing a railroad trestle
A Sage 17 is a pretty nice boat. I would say the risk associated with something happening is not worth the benefit gained of making it under that bridge. Not to mention the risk to personal safety....
Just my two cents.....
Gerry
On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Burt,
Good idea. If I cannot make this work I may have to look at a different boat / rig.
Thanks, Erik
On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...Say, what about a conversion to a sliding gunter or gaff headed rig? Easy to dip a sail then.
On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Erik,
All I can say is "wow!" Live weight in the calculation? Skipper on the bucket-side rail, too? Sails down, motoring, so no chance of a wind shift tipping boat the wrong way? The only calculation missing might be windage of the side of the hull and wind on the mast, which can be significant as we all know.
My neighbor never sailed before. He bought a boat, put the mast up with boat on the trailer AT HOME and tried to drive to the launch down the road. He caught a power line half way there that crosses the road. By the way, he also burned off his eyebrows and eyelashes starting a fire with gasoline.... I expect to read his obituary soon....
Burt Surry, Maine
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hi all,
I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast.
My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it.
Has anyone done this before? Any advice?
Thanks,
Erik
Wow, that's a pretty impressive video. Suppose you had the bucket/sea anchor tied to the topping lift with an extension rope and a block on the bucket andthe boat hook to push the bucket away and maybe some sort of safety line bow and stern to keep the bucket lined upmidships. Then pull on the extension rope and the boat heels in a controlled manner as the bucket is already in the water. Alsoyou don't really care about the 14' as you just want it to be away from the boat, and you use the topping lift line/extensionrope/block to pull the boat over....carefully, using the horizontal distance to gain torque on the mast. You've can control the angle infinitely that way. Might even be nice to go through sideways Of course you really need to watch the water levels....as that changes everything. From: Erik Stavrand via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2018 3:48 PM Subject: M_Boats: Clearing a railroad trestle Hi all, I need to regularly (and easily) clear my Sage 17 under a 22’ +/- railroad bridge. I’m thinking of inducing heel with a water bucket or bag similar to the big boat technique used on the Caloosahachee in FL (see video called Boat Balls - https://youtu.be/WGAzt-8minI). My wife did the calculation based on 25’ from waterline to the masthead (to be confirmed with a Windex installed) and the weight needs to be 14’ from the mast. My guess is that heeling toward the OB (to keep it in the water) with my weight and a 5 gallon (or so) bucket of lake water and a pre-measured halyard (for height) and tailing line (for the 14’ measurement) and a boat hook to push bucket out will do it. Has anyone done this before? Any advice? Thanks, Erik
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