Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
welcome Gordon. i like the garmin handed units. i have an older unit that has done well for seven years. i have used the new colored units and they are nice. if you M17 has a 12-volt system with a 12-v power port get the 'cig plug' option so you can power the unit. a GPS will 'eat' a battery set in about 4-5 hours. on my M17 i mount the GPS on the compression post. it is easy to read from there and i've had no issue getting a satellite signal. where is your M17's home port? :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Fri, 9/21/12, Karen Saville <karen.saville@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
Hi Gordon. Welcome to the list. How long have you had your M17 and where are you located? As far as GPS goes, we use a Garmin 78s. You could use an Iphone with the Navionics chart app. Could also use an Ipad (needs to be 3G or 4G to have full GPS, but you don't need to activate the data plan). Ipad might be a bit large for use in an Mboat. Fact is, most of our Mboat sailing is line of sight, or conning. We keep a paper chart in a plastic sleeve in the cockpit for reference and mostly use the GPS for checking speed, time to next waypoint. Sometimes use it in tight channels to get a larger scale view of hazards. We were out for 2 weeks in August and did not use the GPS more than 1/4 of the time sailing. 116 nautical miles, lots of gunkholing. Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622 Cambridge, Ontario On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Karen Saville <karen.saville@yahoo.com>wrote:
Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
I've been using my Garmin GPSMAP 60Cx for a few years now. At the time it wasn't cheap.. especially when I added the BlueChart America for my home waters and the Topo map for Canada. Even in a small boat I love to see my water depth and the most practical way to navigate on coastal waters. It even covers the major lakes in this area.. or at least some of them that connect to the ocean. BTW I now see the slightly better version of my unit on sale for about half what I paid about 4 years ago. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gordon. Welcome to the list. How long have you had your M17 and where are you located?
As far as GPS goes, we use a Garmin 78s. You could use an Iphone with the Navionics chart app. Could also use an Ipad (needs to be 3G or 4G to have full GPS, but you don't need to activate the data plan). Ipad might be a bit large for use in an Mboat.
Fact is, most of our Mboat sailing is line of sight, or conning. We keep a paper chart in a plastic sleeve in the cockpit for reference and mostly use the GPS for checking speed, time to next waypoint. Sometimes use it in tight channels to get a larger scale view of hazards. We were out for 2 weeks in August and did not use the GPS more than 1/4 of the time sailing. 116 nautical miles, lots of gunkholing.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622 Cambridge, Ontario
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Karen Saville <karen.saville@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
Ain't it always the way? *" I now see the slightly better version of my unit on sale for about half what I paid about 4 years ago."* * * Bill On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Don White <princecraft49@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using my Garmin GPSMAP 60Cx for a few years now. At the time it wasn't cheap.. especially when I added the BlueChart America for my home waters and the Topo map for Canada. Even in a small boat I love to see my water depth and the most practical way to navigate on coastal waters. It even covers the major lakes in this area.. or at least some of them that connect to the ocean. BTW I now see the slightly better version of my unit on sale for about half what I paid about 4 years ago.
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gordon. Welcome to the list. How long have you had your M17 and where are you located?
As far as GPS goes, we use a Garmin 78s. You could use an Iphone with the Navionics chart app. Could also use an Ipad (needs to be 3G or 4G to have full GPS, but you don't need to activate the data plan). Ipad might be a bit large for use in an Mboat.
Fact is, most of our Mboat sailing is line of sight, or conning. We keep a paper chart in a plastic sleeve in the cockpit for reference and mostly use the GPS for checking speed, time to next waypoint. Sometimes use it in tight channels to get a larger scale view of hazards. We were out for 2 weeks in August and did not use the GPS more than 1/4 of the time sailing. 116 nautical miles, lots of gunkholing.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622 Cambridge, Ontario
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Karen Saville <karen.saville@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
Hi Gordon, Welcome to the group. Determining what type of GPS to get goes back to the basic question of where do you sail. Like Bill says, if you sail where every destination is within sight and you don't have to worry about depths you probably don't need a GPS but it's nice to check your speed. Having a GPS really helps out when you are testing different options to improve your skills and speed while you sail... pull that line... let out that one, etc. I sail in the outer banks of NC. Everything is line of sight but just because you can see it doesn't mean to can sail straight to it. So my GPS is useful for keeping me in deeper waters, finding 'local knowledge' channels, and keep me away from other hazzards. I use a Garmin 276C. I had it on my previous 27' boat. I can charge it up at home and it will last 7-8 hours. If I'm out longer than that I can run it off the 12V battery on board. It's 8 years old and there are probably more state of the art units available. But it works for me. But as I said, what works for me may not be the optimal solution for you. I think if you figure out what you'll be doing and then try and find another similar sailor who's one part sailor and one part geek, you'll get your answer. Hmm, I think you may have come to the right group!! Good luck and enjoy your Monty. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Saville To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: M_Boats: new member needing info for GPS systems Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
Aloha, If you just want position and speed, don't need a full GPS, you can get handheld VHFs with basic GPS functionality of position and speed. Also as recently mentioned, smartphones (Android and iPhone) can be used as GPS with chart/plot/course-tracking apps. cheers, John S. On 09/21/2012 09:20 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Hi Gordon, Welcome to the group. Determining what type of GPS to get goes back to the basic question of where do you sail. Like Bill says, if you sail where every destination is within sight and you don't have to worry about depths you probably don't need a GPS but it's nice to check your speed. Having a GPS really helps out when you are testing different options to improve your skills and speed while you sail... pull that line... let out that one, etc. I sail in the outer banks of NC. Everything is line of sight but just because you can see it doesn't mean to can sail straight to it. So my GPS is useful for keeping me in deeper waters, finding 'local knowledge' channels, and keep me away from other hazzards. I use a Garmin 276C. I had it on my previous 27' boat. I can charge it up at home and it will last 7-8 hours. If I'm out longer than that I can run it off the 12V battery on board. It's 8 years old and there are probably more state of the art units available. But it works for me. But as I said, what works for me may not be the optimal solution for you. I think if you figure out what you'll be doing and then try and find another similar sailor who's one part sailor and one part geek, you'll get your answer. Hmm, I think you may have come to the right group!! Good luck and enjoy your Monty. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Saville To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: M_Boats: new member needing info for GPS systems
Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net http://eco-living.net
Do the smart phones work off of cell towers and then the gps app work on it's own??? Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: John Schinnerer To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: new member needing info for GPS systems Aloha, If you just want position and speed, don't need a full GPS, you can get handheld VHFs with basic GPS functionality of position and speed. Also as recently mentioned, smartphones (Android and iPhone) can be used as GPS with chart/plot/course-tracking apps. cheers, John S. On 09/21/2012 09:20 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Hi Gordon, Welcome to the group. Determining what type of GPS to get goes back to the basic question of where do you sail. Like Bill says, if you sail where every destination is within sight and you don't have to worry about depths you probably don't need a GPS but it's nice to check your speed. Having a GPS really helps out when you are testing different options to improve your skills and speed while you sail... pull that line... let out that one, etc. I sail in the outer banks of NC. Everything is line of sight but just because you can see it doesn't mean to can sail straight to it. So my GPS is useful for keeping me in deeper waters, finding 'local knowledge' channels, and keep me away from other hazzards. I use a Garmin 276C. I had it on my previous 27' boat. I can charge it up at home and it will last 7-8 hours. If I'm out longer than that I can run it off the 12V battery on board. It's 8 years old and there are probably more state of the art units available. But it works for me. But as I said, what works for me may not be the optimal solution for you. I think if you figure out what you'll be doing and then try and find another similar sailor who's one part sailor and one part geek, you'll get your answer. Hmm, I think you may have come to the right group!! Good luck and enjoy your Monty. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Saville To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: M_Boats: new member needing info for GPS systems
Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net http://eco-living.net
Yeah, as far as I know the GPS function for smartphones with GPS doesn't depend on cell (voice/text/data transmission) signal - no reason it should. The navigation app I have seen in use on an Android was on a Hilo-Maui passage and I am pretty sure there was no cell signal in the middle of the Alenuihaha channel! cheers, John S. On 09/21/2012 04:52 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Do the smart phones work off of cell towers and then the gps app work on it's own??? Joe SeaFrog M17
----- Original Message ----- *From:* John Schinnerer <mailto:john@eco-living.net> *To:* For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2012 1:09 PM *Subject:* Re: M_Boats: new member needing info for GPS systems
Aloha,
If you just want position and speed, don't need a full GPS, you can get handheld VHFs with basic GPS functionality of position and speed.
Also as recently mentioned, smartphones (Android and iPhone) can be used as GPS with chart/plot/course-tracking apps.
cheers, John S.
On 09/21/2012 09:20 AM, Joe Murphy wrote: > Hi Gordon, > Welcome to the group. > Determining what type of GPS to get goes back to the basic question of where do you sail. Like Bill says, if you sail where every destination is within sight and you don't have to worry about depths you probably don't need a GPS but it's nice to check your speed. Having a GPS really helps out when you are testing different options to improve your skills and speed while you sail... pull that line... let out that one, etc. > I sail in the outer banks of NC. Everything is line of sight but just because you can see it doesn't mean to can sail straight to it. So my GPS is useful for keeping me in deeper waters, finding 'local knowledge' channels, and keep me away from other hazzards. > I use a Garmin 276C. I had it on my previous 27' boat. I can charge it up at home and it will last 7-8 hours. If I'm out longer than that I can run it off the 12V battery on board. It's 8 years old and there are probably more state of the art units available. But it works for me. But as I said, what works for me may not be the optimal solution for you. I think if you figure out what you'll be doing and then try and find another similar sailor who's one part sailor and one part geek, you'll get your answer. Hmm, I think you may have come to the right group!! > Good luck and enjoy your Monty. > Joe > SeaFrog M17 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Karen Saville > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:56 AM > Subject: M_Boats: new member needing info for GPS systems > > > Hi, my name is Gordon Saville and have just joined. I have a M-17 would like to get more information on GPS sysems. Any information you might have would be appreciated. >
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net <mailto:john@eco-living.net> http://eco-living.net
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net http://eco-living.net
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