Capt James, I would not recommend powder coating a mast. Why pray tell do I express myself in a negative way to this fine finish procedure? Because the piece is put in an oven at approx.425 degrees F. to cure the coating - (plastic). This is probably not good for the temper that was put into the extrusion for its strength. Might be wrong - but I would pass on the process for a spar on the boat - I have had mooring cleats and spacers, brackets powder coated, if you have a casting coated it takes a different type of coating (porosity and off gassing issues), I am told by the coaters (industrial areo company) NOT to use the material at or below the waterline - I was going to have my alum. rudder cheeks powder coated on my S2 and they advised against- maybe new materials nowadays - check with a reputable company - or three. Unfortunately not good for refurbished centerboard plates - darn! Pros - My mooring cleats are gorgeous - you do know what the four hole open base merriman cleat sells for today right? The alum. spacers for my nav lights are equally cute, and all in a long lasting coating - I am going for something goofy colorwise on the next run. Cons: It is not Bomb proof - tough but not impervious. Make sure you or the coaters mask threads on parts - also note the material is of substantial thickness compared to paint or anodizing and tolerances may be affected. Gary O. M-17 # 316a **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
Thanks Skipper Very good advice. Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar? Captain Jim -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of GILASAILR@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:11 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15 Capt James, I would not recommend powder coating a mast. Why pray tell do I express myself in a negative way to this fine finish procedure? Because the piece is put in an oven at approx.425 degrees F. to cure the coating - (plastic). This is probably not good for the temper that was put into the extrusion for its strength. Might be wrong - but I would pass on the process for a spar on the boat - I have had mooring cleats and spacers, brackets powder coated, if you have a casting coated it takes a different type of coating (porosity and off gassing issues), I am told by the coaters (industrial areo company) NOT to use the material at or below the waterline - I was going to have my alum. rudder cheeks powder coated on my S2 and they advised against- maybe new materials nowadays - check with a reputable company - or three. Unfortunately not good for refurbished centerboard plates - darn! Pros - My mooring cleats are gorgeous - you do know what the four hole open base merriman cleat sells for today right? The alum. spacers for my nav lights are equally cute, and all in a long lasting coating - I am going for something goofy colorwise on the next run. Cons: It is not Bomb proof - tough but not impervious. Make sure you or the coaters mask threads on parts - also note the material is of substantial thickness compared to paint or anodizing and tolerances may be affected. Gary O. M-17 # 316a **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Seems to me that Jerry wrote an article on mast restoration in Small Craft Advisor. On how to paint them. Epoxy primer and LPU or was it Dextron auto paint? As I recall, he said it was "easy as pie". As for "easy", consider the source. Howard On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Jim Sadler wrote:
Thanks Skipper
Very good advice.
Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar?
Captain Jim
Thanks Howard Any idea which issue? Are you out there Jerry? Captain Jim -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15 Seems to me that Jerry wrote an article on mast restoration in Small Craft Advisor. On how to paint them. Epoxy primer and LPU or was it Dextron auto paint? As I recall, he said it was "easy as pie". As for "easy", consider the source. Howard On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Jim Sadler wrote:
Thanks Skipper
Very good advice.
Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar?
Captain Jim
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I don;t remember writing about that but you know what happens to your memory when you get to be 49 like me. Half the time I can't find my way when I crawl home from the bars at 2 AM; must take the wrong curb or something. Masts are pretty easy- strip it of hardware, sand it good, epoxy primer, sand again, and finish with LP or a good automotive polyurethane. Deltron (PPG) is my favorite but it's hard to find anymore; I think it has about .00001% of something possibly bad in it and the EPA, in its wisdom, banished it for most uses. Our government at work doing what's best for us with our money. Probably put 40 thousand people out of work and on the welfare rolls. Oh well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Thanks Howard
Any idea which issue?
Are you out there Jerry?
Captain Jim
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Seems to me that Jerry wrote an article on mast restoration in Small Craft Advisor. On how to paint them. Epoxy primer and LPU or was it Dextron auto paint? As I recall, he said it was "easy as pie".
As for "easy", consider the source.
Howard
On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Jim Sadler wrote:
Thanks Skipper
Very good advice.
Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar?
Captain Jim
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Jerry, Remember to carry your drivers license to the bar. It's great when your carded and if you have the correct address on it, the cabbie will get you home. Works for me. I'm just a year younger than you but I get carded all the time. Bill On Jan 4, 2008 1:34 PM, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I don;t remember writing about that but you know what happens to your memory when you get to be 49 like me. Half the time I can't find my way when I crawl home from the bars at 2 AM; must take the wrong curb or something.
Masts are pretty easy- strip it of hardware, sand it good, epoxy primer, sand again, and finish with LP or a good automotive polyurethane. Deltron (PPG) is my favorite but it's hard to find anymore; I think it has about .00001% of something possibly bad in it and the EPA, in its wisdom, banished it for most uses. Our government at work doing what's best for us with our money. Probably put 40 thousand people out of work and on the welfare rolls. Oh well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Thanks Howard
Any idea which issue?
Are you out there Jerry?
Captain Jim
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Seems to me that Jerry wrote an article on mast restoration in Small Craft Advisor. On how to paint them. Epoxy primer and LPU or was it Dextron auto paint? As I recall, he said it was "easy as pie".
As for "easy", consider the source.
Howard
On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Jim Sadler wrote:
Thanks Skipper
Very good advice.
Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar?
Captain Jim
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Yes, I get carded all the time too, but my secret is the tight fitting lead collar that I wear- it pulls the skin tight over my face and eliminates most of the wrinkles. The collar makes me lurch more than usual when I walk but I just pass that off to too much beer. Works for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Lamica" <billamicasr@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Jerry, Remember to carry your drivers license to the bar. It's great when your carded and if you have the correct address on it, the cabbie will get you home. Works for me. I'm just a year younger than you but I get carded all the time. Bill
On Jan 4, 2008 1:34 PM, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I don;t remember writing about that but you know what happens to your memory when you get to be 49 like me. Half the time I can't find my way when I crawl home from the bars at 2 AM; must take the wrong curb or something.
Masts are pretty easy- strip it of hardware, sand it good, epoxy primer, sand again, and finish with LP or a good automotive polyurethane. Deltron (PPG) is my favorite but it's hard to find anymore; I think it has about .00001% of something possibly bad in it and the EPA, in its wisdom, banished it for most uses. Our government at work doing what's best for us with our money. Probably put 40 thousand people out of work and on the welfare rolls. Oh well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Thanks Howard
Any idea which issue?
Are you out there Jerry?
Captain Jim
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Seems to me that Jerry wrote an article on mast restoration in Small Craft Advisor. On how to paint them. Epoxy primer and LPU or was it Dextron auto paint? As I recall, he said it was "easy as pie".
As for "easy", consider the source.
Howard
On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Jim Sadler wrote:
Thanks Skipper
Very good advice.
Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar?
Captain Jim
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Huh, Never thought of that. Great idea Bill On Jan 4, 2008 4:22 PM, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
Yes, I get carded all the time too, but my secret is the tight fitting lead collar that I wear- it pulls the skin tight over my face and eliminates most of the wrinkles. The collar makes me lurch more than usual when I walk but I just pass that off to too much beer. Works for me.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Lamica" <billamicasr@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Jerry, Remember to carry your drivers license to the bar. It's great when your carded and if you have the correct address on it, the cabbie will get you home. Works for me. I'm just a year younger than you but I get carded all the time. Bill
On Jan 4, 2008 1:34 PM, jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I don;t remember writing about that but you know what happens to your memory when you get to be 49 like me. Half the time I can't find my way when I crawl home from the bars at 2 AM; must take the wrong curb or something.
Masts are pretty easy- strip it of hardware, sand it good, epoxy primer, sand again, and finish with LP or a good automotive polyurethane. Deltron (PPG) is my favorite but it's hard to find anymore; I think it has about .00001% of something possibly bad in it and the EPA, in its wisdom, banished it for most uses. Our government at work doing what's best for us with our money. Probably put 40 thousand people out of work and on the welfare rolls. Oh well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Thanks Howard
Any idea which issue?
Are you out there Jerry?
Captain Jim
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast restoration M-15
Seems to me that Jerry wrote an article on mast restoration in Small Craft Advisor. On how to paint them. Epoxy primer and LPU or was it Dextron auto paint? As I recall, he said it was "easy as pie".
As for "easy", consider the source.
Howard
On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Jim Sadler wrote:
Thanks Skipper
Very good advice.
Maybe there is a way to just clean it. vinegar?
Captain Jim
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