I am refinishing the tiller and rudder on my m-15 this winter as well.  I had planned on sanding down to wood as there is quite a bit of discoloration (grey) especially on the tiller.  I had been thinking about varnish or polyurethane, but if cetol would hold up on  tiller and rudder, that could be a better choice.  Have been very happy with it on rails and drop boards. Mike   On Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:24 PM, Mark & Roberta <Edarts93@earthlink.net> wrote: Yeah, the original formulation left something to be desired but the 'natural teak' Cetol has given me a very nice finish. The clear gloss topcoat has also produced a lot of compliments. It may indeed be time to give it a try. It certainly holds up much better, with less effort than varnish. Mark bownez@juno.com wrote:

Tom, Rick and Mark,

Thank you much for your replies. I will be going the heat gun/scraper route, and yes, be careful because wood DOES scorch easily! The M23 rudder is in the sun all summer. I have been doing the bottom paint on the portion that sits in the water with the rudder raised. I normally use varnish on brightwork that can be removed from the boat (dropboards, rudder, tiller, etc.)  But the attached teak (grabrails, trim) get Penofin oil. I used Cetol years ago as an experiment on my M6.8. I did not like the muddy, dull look. However, some boating friends are using Cetol's updated product on their Island Packets and it does look much better. I think it is a "Light" formulation? It may be time to try it again, it does seem to hold up better than varnish.

Later,

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