Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use. :: Dave Scobie stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
I have not personally noticed it, saw a news article about it. Wanted to let those on the websites I use know about it since it is a few pennies a gallon cheaper. Most all the world's car manufacturers who sold cars BEFORE 2013 will void any warranties due to this type of damage. It also eats gaskets as well as fuel lines. I guess you can google it for more information. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Dave Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
The few pennies difference in the price of gas is peanuts, corrosive peanuts, compared to the cost of rebuilding an outboard motor carburator that has been eaten away by the E-15 gas. Real gas is available at a few places, and well worth looking for, and the inconvenience of hauling a can of it to your boat. Steve M-15 # 335 P. S. if you're looking for real gas in the South Puget Sound area, I will get the name and location and directions for the one place where I found it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
I have not personally noticed it, saw a news article about it. Wanted to let those on the websites I use know about it since it is a few pennies a gallon cheaper. Most all the world's car manufacturers who sold cars BEFORE 2013 will void any warranties due to this type of damage. It also eats gaskets as well as fuel lines. I guess you can google it for more information.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Dave Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
unless things have changed in the last couple of years, in south Sound Zittle's at Johnson Point as non-ethanol gas. i've had no problems with E10 in my outboards. i do mix all fuel with _both_ Sea Foam and Sta-bil. :: Dave Scobie -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 3/15/14, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote: The few pennies difference in the price of gas is peanuts, corrosive peanuts, compared to the cost of rebuilding an outboard motor carburator that has been eaten away by the E-15 gas. Real gas is available at a few places, and well worth looking for, and the inconvenience of hauling a can of it to your boat. Steve M-15 # 335 P. S. if you're looking for real gas in the South Puget Sound area, I will get the name and location and directions for the one place where I found it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:58 AM
I have not personally noticed it, saw a news article about it. Wanted to let those on the websites I use know about it since it is a few pennies a gallon cheaper. Most all the world's car manufacturers who sold cars BEFORE 2013 will void any warranties due to this type of damage. It also eats gaskets as well as fuel lines. I guess you can google it for more information.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Dave Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
Dave, Thanx, now I know 2 places in the South Sound, didn't know about Zittle's had gas. Swantown Marina has submitted a proposal to get a permit to build a fuel dock, maybe next time you sail in this area it might be operable. Or it might still be in permit processing process? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:24 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline unless things have changed in the last couple of years, in south Sound Zittle's at Johnson Point as non-ethanol gas. i've had no problems with E10 in my outboards. i do mix all fuel with _both_ Sea Foam and Sta-bil. :: Dave Scobie -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 3/15/14, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote: The few pennies difference in the price of gas is peanuts, corrosive peanuts, compared to the cost of rebuilding an outboard motor carburator that has been eaten away by the E-15 gas. Real gas is available at a few places, and well worth looking for, and the inconvenience of hauling a can of it to your boat. Steve M-15 # 335 P. S. if you're looking for real gas in the South Puget Sound area, I will get the name and location and directions for the one place where I found it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:58 AM
I have not personally noticed it, saw a news article about it. Wanted to let those on the websites I use know about it since it is a few pennies a gallon cheaper. Most all the world's car manufacturers who sold cars BEFORE 2013 will void any warranties due to this type of damage. It also eats gaskets as well as fuel lines. I guess you can google it for more information.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Dave Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
I am fortunate in that I can buy Marine Grade (pink) gas at my lake George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use. :: Dave Scobie stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
My small engine guy told me to buy something from Stabil. I think it is Stabil blue. He showed us a whole wall with maybe 20 weedeaters lined up...all dead from ethanol gas. I can look up the exact product if anyone is interested. We took one weedeater in (after our first one died from ethanol gas poisoning) that had overheated. The mechanic smelled the spark plug and said...yup, ethanol. This was when we had used gas straight from the pump (with the idea that the problem really only arises with stale gas). After that, we have used this Stabil product in all of our small engines, every time. It has allowed us to leave the gas in these engines for a period of time. I would never not use this stuff. Gail On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com>wrote:
I am fortunate in that I can buy Marine Grade (pink) gas at my lake
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
Thanks for this info, Gail. I use E10 in my car, have for years. Did the weedeaters die from E10 or E15 gas? Most all pump gas nowadays has some ethanol in it. If I have to use Stabil, shucks and I thought I was getting away from all that mixing stuff when I went from a two stroke to a four stroke motor. Sure DO NOT want to cook my brand new Tohatsu 6 though. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Gail Russell <gail@zeliga.com> wrote:
My small engine guy told me to buy something from Stabil. I think it is Stabil blue. He showed us a whole wall with maybe 20 weedeaters lined up...all dead from ethanol gas. I can look up the exact product if anyone is interested. We took one weedeater in (after our first one died from ethanol gas poisoning) that had overheated. The mechanic smelled the spark plug and said...yup, ethanol. This was when we had used gas straight from the pump (with the idea that the problem really only arises with stale gas). After that, we have used this Stabil product in all of our small engines, every time. It has allowed us to leave the gas in these engines for a period of time.
I would never not use this stuff. Gail
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com
wrote:
I am fortunate in that I can buy Marine Grade (pink) gas at my lake
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
Marine Sta-Bil sounds good. How about Sea Foam? GARY ~~~~_/) ~~~~ Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for this info, Gail. I use E10 in my car, have for years. Did the weedeaters die from E10 or E15 gas? Most all pump gas nowadays has some ethanol in it. If I have to use Stabil, shucks and I thought I was getting away from all that mixing stuff when I went from a two stroke to a four stroke motor. Sure DO NOT want to cook my brand new Tohatsu 6 though.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Gail Russell <gail@zeliga.com> wrote:
My small engine guy told me to buy something from Stabil. I think it is Stabil blue. He showed us a whole wall with maybe 20 weedeaters lined up...all dead from ethanol gas. I can look up the exact product if anyone is interested. We took one weedeater in (after our first one died from ethanol gas poisoning) that had overheated. The mechanic smelled the spark plug and said...yup, ethanol. This was when we had used gas straight from the pump (with the idea that the problem really only arises with stale gas). After that, we have used this Stabil product in all of our small engines, every time. It has allowed us to leave the gas in these engines for a period of time.
I would never not use this stuff. Gail
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com
wrote:
I am fortunate in that I can buy Marine Grade (pink) gas at my lake
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
I have located ethanol-free gas by using the directory at www.pure-gas.org. Nothing else goes in my small two and four-cycle engines. Mike -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gail Russell Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline My small engine guy told me to buy something from Stabil. I think it is Stabil blue. He showed us a whole wall with maybe 20 weedeaters lined up...all dead from ethanol gas. I can look up the exact product if anyone is interested. We took one weedeater in (after our first one died from ethanol gas poisoning) that had overheated. The mechanic smelled the spark plug and said...yup, ethanol. This was when we had used gas straight from the pump (with the idea that the problem really only arises with stale gas). After that, we have used this Stabil product in all of our small engines, every time. It has allowed us to leave the gas in these engines for a period of time. I would never not use this stuff. Gail On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com>wrote:
I am fortunate in that I can buy Marine Grade (pink) gas at my lake
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use.
:: Dave Scobie
stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
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George, please send 10,000 gallons of your pink fuel to Sacramento.....I have two engines now....no more sailing. This is a River Town....Larry Hughston M-15 Old 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of George R. Iemmolo Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:18 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline I am fortunate in that I can buy Marine Grade (pink) gas at my lake George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Dave Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:58 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: E15 gasoline Where are you seeing E15? Having crisscrossed the country repeatedly over the last 2 years I've only seen one E15 pump and it was distinctly marked and separate from all the other standard E10 gas we all use. :: Dave Scobie stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I agree, the E-15 gas I was buying corroded the carburator on my M-15 kicker motor to the point it would not run, not a good situation on a tidal river with the current going out. The repair bill was spendy. Found one pump in town, at a farm supply store, that sells real regular gas, worth the effort to look around and drive over to buy a can of it. Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: M_Boats: E15 gasoline
Do not use this in your outboard motors, or any motors, engines or anything else that uses regular gas. Highly corrosive, will void your car's warranty.
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