I use a sym on my 17 and it pulls as hard as it would on any other boat. Great on light air days if I am by myself, or, if I have a helmsman other than Auto I carry will carry that sail up to about 6-8knots of pressure. Seems to work best from dead downhill up to a broad reach. That's where I think an asym would be the dogs bollox. More range of use and easier to set/ handle. Auto does a good job in a directionally steady breeze but when the wind kicks up a bit I will douse the thing because it stops being fun and the real work starts. I rarely race so sailing is only EVER about having fun. I have decided that when the funds present themselves, a modern asym will be added to the inventory. I could see one of these puppies being very handy a large amount of the time. Much more handy in several ways than my Gollywobbler. Though next sail purchased will be a heavier storm jib and a new stock jib.....then a new 155 and THEN the assy. I always have a plan. ~:0) Cheers, Tim M17 Puff Kelowna BC --Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ian Black Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:53 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Asymmetrical spinnaker Hi Rob, I have a genaker that came with my M-17 and it works just fine when I get up the energy to put it up. Ian

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Hi Gary, My gennaker came with the boat when I bought it. It's basically a huge light air genoa, very colorful, and lightweight. The tack attaches at the bow, the head at the top of the mast by the jib halyard. There are no jib hanks on it. From there you can just wing it out with a spinnaker pole. It's quite pretty when it's up and useful in light air. It was made by Waagmeester Sails out of Portland, Oregon. They have it labeled as a cruisaker on the bag, but I've dubbed it my gennaker since I have never heard of a cruisaker. My best guess is that it's about 120 sq ft in area. Regards, Ian

From: gmhyde1@mac.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:23:02 -1000> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Asymmetrical spinnaker> > Ian:> Tell us more about the genaker. I'm interested in getting one. Where > does the tack attach, where did U buy it? Etc.> Thanks.> --Gary> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Mar 10, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Ian Black <seaweeble@hotmail.com> wrote:> > > Hi Rob,> > I have a genaker that came with my M-17 and it works just fine when > > I get up the energy to put it up.> > Ian> >> >> >> >> From: robhicks@psycorp.com> To: > >> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 > >> 20:21:10 -0500> Subject: M_Boats: M15 Asymmetrical spinnaker> > Hi > >> all,> > > > I am thinking about putting an asymmetrical spinnaker > >> on my M15 for sailing> off of the wind. Has anyone done this? If > >> so, how well does it work?> > > > Thanks all,> > > > Rob Hicks> > > >> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats> > _________________________________________________________________> > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008> > _______________________________________________> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats> > _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Hi Gary, Sounds like the light weight, light air Drifter that Tom has for his M17 darma bum. Bill On 3/11/08, Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> wrote:

Thanks Ian.

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Hi Gary, My gennaker came with the boat when I bought it. It's basically a huge light air genoa, very colorful, and lightweight. The tack attaches at the bow, the head at the top of the mast by the jib halyard. There are no jib hanks on it. From there you can just wing it out with a spinnaker pole. It's quite pretty when it's up and useful in light air. It was made by Waagmeester Sails out of Portland, Oregon. They have it labeled as a cruisaker on the bag, but I've dubbed it my gennaker since I have never heard of a cruisaker. My best guess is that it's about 120 sq ft in area. Regards, Ian

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From: gmhyde1@mac.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:23:02 -1000> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Asymmetrical spinnaker> > Ian:> Tell us more about the genaker. I'm interested in getting one. Where > does the tack attach, where did U buy it? Etc.> Thanks.> --Gary> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Mar 10, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Ian Black <seaweeble@hotmail.com> wrote:> > > Hi Rob,> > I have a genaker that came with my M-17 and it works just fine when > > I get up the energy to put it up.> > Ian> >> >>

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> From: robhicks@psycorp.com> To: > >> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 > >> 20:21:10 -0500> Subject: M_Boats: M15 Asymmetrical spinnaker> > Hi > >> all,> > > > I am thinking about putting an asymmetrical spinnaker > >> on my M15 for sailing> off of the wind. Has anyone done this? If > >> so, how well does it work?> > > > Thanks all,> > > > Rob Hicks> > > >> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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