Bill.... Keep in mind that NADA and other bluebooks for boats require Dealers to report selling prices of boats on a quarterly basis. Those numbers in those books are 15 years old..! 1. Most Montgomerys get sold via private party. No reporting to NADA. 2. Our boats are sold factory direct. No reporting to NADA. 3. We have sold several newer model used Montgomerys and in the $15,000 to $18,000 range and NO reporting to NADA. (or anyone else) Once in a great while, someone gets some health issues or money problems and they end up selling their boats at a lesser price. Those deals are rare. Most people are prepared to wait for a buyer who knows what he wants and isn't going to grind away at the asking price. Used prices for older Montys have doubled the last 5 years. Asking people to lower the price only hurts everyone who has a Montgomery for sale. The value is there; the quality construction is there and nothing outsails a Montgomery. Bob -----Original Message-----

From: bill safford <free_willy62@hotmail.com> Sent: Sep 22, 2007 2:41 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: RE: M_Boats: M23 Still For Sale in AZ for $5800 or offer

Sean

Some of the 17's I've seen advertised lately should take a page from Tucson 23's book. Asking prices are too high if your Montgomery is on the market more than 2 weeks. I offered $13,000 cash for a 2005 model M17 in June that later sold in August for $11,000.

The average year model for 17's currently advertised on the net is 1980. The average ASKING price is $6,042. The average selling price is $3,472. The average NADA for a 1980 M17 is $2,058 to $2,297 (not including trailer or motor). The BUC Valu price for a 1980 M17 $3,850 to $4,450.

M23's were never popular--nothing like the M17. And, the Montgomery market is quite narrow. Not everybody wants one. There are certainly better values if you're just looking for a good quality tailerable sailboat. A used Com-Pac or Nimble are way better values than a Montgomery--they just don't have the "look". Hunter and Catalina also make respectable boats and because of thier numbers are outstanding values.

If you really want to sell that M17 today and you want cash and a fair offer--send me an email. I'll answer within 24 hours. But, be prepared to NEGOTIATE!

Willy> From: Nebwest2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:35:00 -0400> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M23 Still For Sale in AZ for $5800 or offer> > The M23 for sale in Tucson AZ is STILL for sale for around $5000.00 with a > roller trailer. She looks structurally sound although she needs a lot of > cosmetics. This is a hell of a buy for someone. I went down and looked at her and > damn near bought her as an investment, but ......well I have enough projects > going and that might be pushing 'Jo a bit far! hahaha. The owner has people > interested but no solid offers or down-payments yet. I SURE hope someone out > there that understands how rare this boat is gets their hands on it and not > just someone that wants a big 23 for $5000.00! Keep in mind that a new 23 would > set you back a cool $65,0000 for the base boat. Had this boat come up for > sale before I bought Dauntless I'd surely have purchased it instead. The email > of the owner is _Clspark@aol.com_ (mailto:Clspark@aol.com) .> > I have spoke to the owner and he is a very nice fella and seems like a real > straight shooter IMHO.> > Cmon guys...someone out there has to pick this old girl up! Happy Bidding!> > > Sean> > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _________________________________________________________________ Get the new Windows Live Hotmail! http://www.discoverhotmail.com/Hotmail/Default.aspx?Locale=en-SG#2 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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