Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much. So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month. One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next! There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension. I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in! Jazz
You're getting a better, more affordable, price than I am not too many miles down the road at Swantown in Olympia, and your insurance is less than what Allstate is extracting from me. I can understand the Tacoma too, less traffic than the bridge to get to the other side. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: New slip! Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much. So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month. One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next! There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension. I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in! Jazz
Yeah Gig Harbor would have been super perfect, but maybe next summer. I imagine the boat value is playing a role in the insurance price. Boat USA has an online quote generator if you're interested..takes about 15 min, not too bad. My moorage rate is based on the tide thing, so there's a bit of a catch there. I don't see it being too much of a bother though. We watch those tides closely anyway don't we? Lol My friend keeps his Columbia down by you, "Greener". Very nice marina! Jazz On Jun 9, 2016 4:58 PM, "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
You're getting a better, more affordable, price than I am not too many miles down the road at Swantown in Olympia, and your insurance is less than what Allstate is extracting from me. I can understand the Tacoma too, less traffic than the bridge to get to the other side. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: New slip!
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
Oh didn't see you Connie... Really the biggest drawback of no power is the electric heater, I also have a Heater Buddy propane deal, but it only goes 5 hours without a bottle change. My solar panel charges the battery over the week and I've been on the boat two days with no battery issues if I'm not ridiculous with consumption. The battery runs the gps, lights and charges some gadget or another without too much problem. If I have everything on it's under 2 amps...so no big deal there really. Why don't you start a gadget thread, I'd love to hear about your stuff! Jazz On Jun 9, 2016 8:01 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah Gig Harbor would have been super perfect, but maybe next summer. I imagine the boat value is playing a role in the insurance price. Boat USA has an online quote generator if you're interested..takes about 15 min, not too bad. My moorage rate is based on the tide thing, so there's a bit of a catch there. I don't see it being too much of a bother though. We watch those tides closely anyway don't we? Lol
My friend keeps his Columbia down by you, "Greener". Very nice marina!
Jazz On Jun 9, 2016 4:58 PM, "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
You're getting a better, more affordable, price than I am not too many miles down the road at Swantown in Olympia, and your insurance is less than what Allstate is extracting from me. I can understand the Tacoma too, less traffic than the bridge to get to the other side. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: New slip!
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
Tides! I have learned since moving from the fresh water or Lake Couer D' Alene to the salt water of Budd Bay to watch the tides. Have also discovered a source of entertainment can be found in watching the boaters who run aground in the mud at low tides. Will bet those folks learn to watch the tides too, and it seems there is a new initiate to the concept nearly every weekend. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:01 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New slip! Yeah Gig Harbor would have been super perfect, but maybe next summer. I imagine the boat value is playing a role in the insurance price. Boat USA has an online quote generator if you're interested..takes about 15 min, not too bad. My moorage rate is based on the tide thing, so there's a bit of a catch there. I don't see it being too much of a bother though. We watch those tides closely anyway don't we? Lol My friend keeps his Columbia down by you, "Greener". Very nice marina! Jazz On Jun 9, 2016 4:58 PM, "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
You're getting a better, more affordable, price than I am not too many miles down the road at Swantown in Olympia, and your insurance is less than what Allstate is extracting from me. I can understand the Tacoma too, less traffic than the bridge to get to the other side. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: New slip!
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
On 6/9/2016 10:13 PM, Steve Trapp wrote: Hi Steve, Way back when, .... a gang of us from Pratt & Whitney Aircraft had a mooring at Block Island. The mooring was sufficiently large so that five of us could raft up together. It was located near a shoal water area between our mooring and the shore. Saturday evenings we'd sit in our biggest boat's cockpit enjoying Happy Hour, and watch the antics of new arrivals that were looking for a place to anchor. Naturally, the big open space between our raft of boats and shore was very inviting - there was nobody there. We referred to this as our Happy Hour Anchoring Follies TV show. A New episode of the follies was presented every week When someone attempted to anchor there we'd warn them of the water depth at low tide: the smart ones listened and went elsewhere; others anchored there, only to find themselves aground and their sailboat tilted sideways at low tide (tide there was about 3-4 feet). Another problem was that many people anchored with much too short a rode. Their anchor barely touched the bottom; they fasten the rode to the cleat. Then the tide comes in; it lifts the anchor out of the bottom and with the steady winds blowing all night long, away he goes, drifting through the anchored fleet. Ciao, Connie
Tides! I have learned since moving from the fresh water or Lake Couer D' Alene to the salt water of Budd Bay to watch the tides. Have also discovered a source of entertainment can be found in watching the boaters who run aground in the mud at low tides. Will bet those folks learn to watch the tides too, and it seems there is a new initiate to the concept nearly every weekend. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 8:01 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New slip!
Yeah Gig Harbor would have been super perfect, but maybe next summer. I imagine the boat value is playing a role in the insurance price. Boat USA has an online quote generator if you're interested..takes about 15 min, not too bad. My moorage rate is based on the tide thing, so there's a bit of a catch there. I don't see it being too much of a bother though. We watch those tides closely anyway don't we? Lol
My friend keeps his Columbia down by you, "Greener". Very nice marina!
Jazz On Jun 9, 2016 4:58 PM, "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
You're getting a better, more affordable, price than I am not too many miles down the road at Swantown in Olympia, and your insurance is less than what Allstate is extracting from me. I can understand the Tacoma too, less traffic than the bridge to get to the other side. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Jazzy Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: New slip!
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
On 6/9/2016 5:39 PM, Jazzy wrote: Hi Jazz, What's your requirement for shore power? To keep the battery(s) charged? To run your electrical equipment? Alternatives: Take battery home and charge it there If battery is too heavy to remove and carry easily, then how about solar cells to keep it charged if you are gone for a week at a time? Or if none of these work, how about a small HONDA portable generator, that you can use to charge your battery. Another possibility would be the long distance cruisers solution: a wind driven generator; but that probably is too expensive and heavy for an M15 or change your electrical equipment so something that uses a few AA batteries. They don't cost much if bought in quantity. On our T-L 29 all my electronics were B&G units: depth / log / radio. Each unit required 4 X AA cells that lasted a whole sailing season. On our M15 I had a SONY CD player with cockpit speakers / Garmin GPS / Grundig radio / and a Standard VHF marine radio - all AA battery powered Ciao, Connie
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
Battery or shore power electrical connection for an M-15? One of the beauties of the M-15 is it is simple. Nothing on board to demand electrical power. Keep it simple, no need for electricity or batteries or hook-ups. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: Conbert Benneck Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 7:46 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New slip! On 6/9/2016 5:39 PM, Jazzy wrote: Hi Jazz, What's your requirement for shore power? To keep the battery(s) charged? To run your electrical equipment? Alternatives: Take battery home and charge it there If battery is too heavy to remove and carry easily, then how about solar cells to keep it charged if you are gone for a week at a time? Or if none of these work, how about a small HONDA portable generator, that you can use to charge your battery. Another possibility would be the long distance cruisers solution: a wind driven generator; but that probably is too expensive and heavy for an M15 or change your electrical equipment so something that uses a few AA batteries. They don't cost much if bought in quantity. On our T-L 29 all my electronics were B&G units: depth / log / radio. Each unit required 4 X AA cells that lasted a whole sailing season. On our M15 I had a SONY CD player with cockpit speakers / Garmin GPS / Grundig radio / and a Standard VHF marine radio - all AA battery powered Ciao, Connie
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
That's cool until the Admiral gets cold and the condensation drips on here head..hahahaha. It's just an extension cord with a power strip in the boat, adapter on the shore power side. Simple and opens up lots of options! Jazz On Jun 9, 2016 8:26 PM, "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Battery or shore power electrical connection for an M-15? One of the beauties of the M-15 is it is simple. Nothing on board to demand electrical power. Keep it simple, no need for electricity or batteries or hook-ups. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Conbert Benneck Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 7:46 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New slip!
On 6/9/2016 5:39 PM, Jazzy wrote:
Hi Jazz,
What's your requirement for shore power? To keep the battery(s) charged? To run your electrical equipment?
Alternatives:
Take battery home and charge it there
If battery is too heavy to remove and carry easily, then how about solar cells to keep it charged if you are gone for a week at a time?
Or if none of these work, how about a small HONDA portable generator, that you can use to charge your battery.
Another possibility would be the long distance cruisers solution: a wind driven generator; but that probably is too expensive and heavy for an M15
or change your electrical equipment so something that uses a few AA batteries. They don't cost much if bought in quantity. On our T-L 29 all my electronics were B&G units: depth / log / radio. Each unit required 4 X AA cells that lasted a whole sailing season.
On our M15 I had a SONY CD player with cockpit speakers / Garmin GPS / Grundig radio / and a Standard VHF marine radio - all AA battery powered
Ciao,
Connie
Hi all, I managed to secure a dockside mooring at Foss Marina, Tacoma WA
for El Nino so no mooring anchor stress now. I thought I'd share costs etc...for anyone curious. I had to go to Tacoma (7 miles) instead of Gig Harbor, but it beats trailering, and really 7 miles I can't bitch too much.
So it's a dockside mooring, no power. There's a sort of communal water faucet for hosing down and full marina amenities to include bbq area..lounge, security, sundries store, parking, bathrooms, showers..etc. That's all good. The downside: no power as I mentioned, and anything more than about a minus 1.5 tide and I'm not able to squeeze out between the dock and the shore, but I won't be grounded. I couldn't launch from the boat ramp in that tide either..so a bit of a wash there. This slip is running me 120.00 per month.
One of the requirements was 300,000.00 worth of liability insurance. Through US Boat, with an accompanying 25.00 membership, I secured this for 101.00 a year for a no depreciation full value policy. The policy which replaces losses at depreciated values would have been 54.00 a year! Quite a deal. My home/auto agent quoted me $400.00. Mmhmmm...next!
There are numerous benefits from the US Boat membership that I haven't had time to look at. I know West Marine offers a discount and there's $50.00 towing when I ground it :) Oh the policy covers only Puget Sound and the San Juans area. If I go elsewhere I have to call for a cruising area extension.
I think that's the basics. Happy to answer anything else I can. Unfortunately my back is a mess right now and I can't move in!
Jazz
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