After several club members were injured from falls onto tarmac while rigging boats on trailers, I started raising my mast on the water. I've never lost anything overboard while doing so. My boat is equipped with a rudder craft mast raising strut, which gets the mast high enough to make the job easier. I have raised and lowered my mast while motoring without incident. Because I trailer sail to multiple launch sites during the season, I have lots of experience rigging dockside. When I arrive at a launch I only need to remove 3 straps and crank up the centerboard before launching. No more long sessions rigging in a parking lot. I rig when it's convenient. So far, I'm the only club member to do this. Once, while leaving Monterey for a sail to Moss Landing I lost the main halyard up the mast (that shackle has been replaced) I was able to tie up at an empty pier and lower, retrieve halyard and re rig in 20 minutes. P.S. The strut makes a good place to fly flags, too! Lately I've been sailing under jib only with my awning up. This causes lee helm. I might try a mizzen sail to balance the helm; using the strut as a mast. I'm always thinking up rigging changes. It keeps me interested. Jon Barber Vice Commodore Potter Yachters Monty17 Ol'44 On Wed, Aug 9, 2023, 3:03 AM <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
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1. Re: M-10 Hull number 1 (jerry montgomery) 2. Re: M-10 Hull number 1 (John Schinnerer) 3. M23 Sling Launch (Gerald Wyatt) 4. Re: M23 Sling Launch (Theo Petron)
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 16:08:33 +0000 From: jerry montgomery <jmbn1@outlook.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M-10 Hull number 1 To: Gary H.Oberbeck <fairandsquare1@gmail.com>, "stansusman@gmail.com" <stansusman@gmail.com>, montgomery list <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <MN0PR84MB31199E406665E4AEF591D201E60EA@MN0PR84MB3119.NAM PRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
That's got to be the boat I took to the trials put on by One-design and Offshore Racing magazine (later called Yacht Racing) and won all the races and got the only perfect score in quality. This was in 1970 and is what got my business started. Up until then I was a one-man shop. Great memories. I'd buy it for old time's sake except I don't want to drive to San Diego.
Thanks, Gary. I take back all I've said about you! ________________________________ From: Gary H.Oberbeck <fairandsquare1@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:01 PM To: jerry montgomery <jmbn1@outlook.com>; stansusman@gmail.com < stansusman@gmail.com> Subject: M-10 Hull number 1
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 11:11:57 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M-10 Hull number 1 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <89aebdfa-9510-bc2d-0abc-09d125e1cbb4@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Wow, very cool! Maybe if you contact them Jerry with the story below, they'll ship it to you as a "piece of history"... :-)
cheers, John
On 8/5/23 09:08, jerry montgomery wrote:
That's got to be the boat I took to the trials put on by One-design and Offshore Racing magazine (later called Yacht Racing) and won all the races and got the only perfect score in quality. This was in 1970 and is what got my business started. Up until then I was a one-man shop. Great memories. I'd buy it for old time's sake except I don't want to drive to San Diego.
Thanks, Gary. I take back all I've said about you! ________________________________ From: Gary H.Oberbeck <fairandsquare1@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:01 PM To: jerry montgomery <jmbn1@outlook.com>; stansusman@gmail.com < stansusman@gmail.com> Subject: M-10 Hull number 1
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 19:26:34 -0700 From: Gerald Wyatt <wyattgs@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: M23 Sling Launch To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: < CACXTuZy_LC1hSXxHKqPbg5_zjB9H-b5OXx4cWunvyh9gmJNx9Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hello,
We are trailing our M23 Dhana to the San Juan Islands next week. Larry was very kind to help us with planning and suggested sling launching the boat at Cap Sante Marina. We plan to follow his suggestion, but we have never stepped the mast on the water. The steps we take will be the same, but if any M23 owners have any suggestions or experiences, it would be helpful.
It would be a shame to not take advantage of all the experience out there.
At the very least, we plan to do as much as possible while the boat is on the trailer to avoid dropping stuff in the water....
Thank you,
Gerry
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 06:03:01 -0400 From: Theo Petron <lapstrake1979@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M23 Sling Launch To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: < CADqWGb17OAFKz-xW2d1FAiMxCk7df0Y7cDF0Zwz_5uXf__fOmA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hi Gerry,
You will LOVE the San Juans, have fun!
I almost always step and unstep my mast in the water on my 23. The height from boat to ground is a lot farther than the water and the water seems a bit softer. Not sure what you think might go splash, but I've not had any issues. Also, I think youve got that custom raising gizmo that the owner before Bones made, which should make it even easier. I find a slip and make sure there is ample room to tie the sloop off at an angle so one person can be on the dock to steady the mast in the beginning, then move to the bow for further steadying. Hope that make sense.
I'm sure others will have more detailed experiences and suggestions. It's second nature to me after 23 years of doing it! Best. Theo PS: Have fun with the Orcas!
On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:27 PM Gerald Wyatt <wyattgs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
We are trailing our M23 Dhana to the San Juan Islands next week. Larry was very kind to help us with planning and suggested sling launching the boat at Cap Sante Marina. We plan to follow his suggestion, but we have never stepped the mast on the water. The steps we take will be the same, but if any M23 owners have any suggestions or experiences, it would be helpful.
It would be a shame to not take advantage of all the experience out there.
At the very least, we plan to do as much as possible while the boat is on the trailer to avoid dropping stuff in the water....
Thank you,
Gerry
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I like to sail out of a harbor that has low power lines over the launch ramp, so often rigged my M15 after getting it in the water. I agree, it seems safer, and has the added benefit of feeling like I am on the water. I always feel like rigging on the dry is an annoying chore, but anything I do once I'm in the water is fun. I also mostly sail together with my 6 year old son, and feel it's a lot safer if he falls off the boat into calm marina water with a life jacket vs from high up on a trailer. This way he can play safely by himself on the dock or boat while I rig. He does drop toys overboard, but I only let him bring toys that float, and we have a net to retrieve them, which also floats. Sincerely, Tyler Sage 17 #0 Goshawk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Barber" <brbrbarber@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 7:52:11 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 246, Issue 5 After several club members were injured from falls onto tarmac while rigging boats on trailers, I started raising my mast on the water. I've never lost anything overboard while doing so. My boat is equipped with a rudder craft mast raising strut, which gets the mast high enough to make the job easier. I have raised and lowered my mast while motoring without incident. Because I trailer sail to multiple launch sites during the season, I have lots of experience rigging dockside. When I arrive at a launch I only need to remove 3 straps and crank up the centerboard before launching. No more long sessions rigging in a parking lot. I rig when it's convenient. So far, I'm the only club member to do this. Once, while leaving Monterey for a sail to Moss Landing I lost the main halyard up the mast (that shackle has been replaced) I was able to tie up at an empty pier and lower, retrieve halyard and re rig in 20 minutes. P.S. The strut makes a good place to fly flags, too! Lately I've been sailing under jib only with my awning up. This causes lee helm. I might try a mizzen sail to balance the helm; using the strut as a mast. I'm always thinking up rigging changes. It keeps me interested. Jon Barber Vice Commodore Potter Yachters Monty17 Ol'44
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