Back Again w/ continuing centerboad problem (and bribe)
Hi All For those of you who remember I'm the guy trying to install a Montgomery 15 centerboard (hull #256) that had been removed from the boat and completely glassed over (closing the pivot pin hole). Well - today I jacked up the boat, drove out the 1/2" ss pin (good condition) from the centerboard trunk and proceeded to try to fit the c.b. in the trunk. Q: When the c.b. is correctly installed - I am assuming that it fully retracts inside the cb trunk so that none of the boats weight reasts on the c.b when on the trailer. Is this correct? If so, then I have a problem because when I install the c.b so that it is fully in the trunk the pivot pin passes just in front of the board. (barely touches the board) I am assuming that when the c.b. was repaired/glassed over, a part of the board near the pivot pin hole had been damaged/removed and was not replaced! If all the above assumptions are correct - I am going to have to add on to the top of the c.b. I am capable of doing the glassing but would need a pattern. Does anybody have their c.b. out of the boat that would be willing to send me a tracing ?? In return I offer free dockage (transient)on East Bay (part of St. Andrews Bay) including water and power! (About 15 miles east of Panama City, Florida on ICW) (Actually this offer is good to anyone - just email me at schuh8@yahoo.com to arrange.) Thanks in advance Bud __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Bud I sense a problem. First, your centerboard pin should be 3/8" not 1/2". But thats not a serious thing. Your centerboard should have a 3/8 inch hole drilled in the forward upper section of the board when you stand the board in the up position. This hole should be centered on the raduis (about 1 inch from the edge) and should be 3/8 inch. (1/2 inch would work if thats the pin size your stuck with). When you say you drove out the 1/2 inch pin, I thought you said earlier that you couldn't find the hole. Are you saying you found the hold by looking inside the trunk; saw the pin and drilled through enough to tap it out with a long bolt or punch? You don't "Fit" the centerboard, you simply move it into position and slide the pin through the side of the keel, thru the hole in the board and continue thru to the otherside of the keel. The aft end of the board will then pivot down to make a nice triangle shape (see photos of the Montgomery 17 at montgomeryboats.com). Later Bob http://msog.org/models/m23new/m23_thumbs.cfm Bud Holzschuh wrote:
Hi All
For those of you who remember I'm the guy trying to install a Montgomery 15 centerboard (hull #256) that had been removed from the boat and completely glassed over (closing the pivot pin hole).
Well - today I jacked up the boat, drove out the 1/2" ss pin (good condition) from the centerboard trunk and proceeded to try to fit the c.b. in the trunk.
Q: When the c.b. is correctly installed - I am assuming that it fully retracts inside the cb trunk so that none of the boats weight reasts on the c.b when on the trailer. Is this correct?
If so, then I have a problem because when I install the c.b so that it is fully in the trunk the pivot pin passes just in front of the board. (barely touches the board)
I am assuming that when the c.b. was repaired/glassed over, a part of the board near the pivot pin hole had been damaged/removed and was not replaced!
If all the above assumptions are correct - I am going to have to add on to the top of the c.b. I am capable of doing the glassing but would need a pattern.
Does anybody have their c.b. out of the boat that would be willing to send me a tracing ?? In return I offer free dockage (transient)on East Bay (part of St. Andrews Bay) including water and power! (About 15 miles east of Panama City, Florida on ICW)
(Actually this offer is good to anyone - just email me at schuh8@yahoo.com to arrange.)
Thanks in advance
Bud
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Bud, I would love to take you up on your bribe. That is some beautiful cruising area! The older M15s may have some swelling in the centerboard trunk due to iron fillings expanding. Mine #310 was one of them. If you look at some old posting from Bob Eeg you can make a gauge out of something 1 3/8 inch wide and check the centerboard well width. When I installed my new centerboard with the pin in the board got stuck 3/4 of the way up. I suspect there is more room fore and aft in the well than is needed. If the swelling is forward of the mid point you may be able to get the board up but not forward enough to reach the pin hole. My new board appeared to be slightly thinner forward. I had to sand most of the gel coat off of both sides of my new board to get it to fit. --- Bud Holzschuh <schuh8@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi All
For those of you who remember I'm the guy trying to install a Montgomery 15 centerboard (hull #256) that had been removed from the boat and completely glassed over (closing the pivot pin hole).
Well - today I jacked up the boat, drove out the 1/2" ss pin (good condition) from the centerboard trunk and proceeded to try to fit the c.b. in the trunk.
Q: When the c.b. is correctly installed - I am assuming that it fully retracts inside the cb trunk so that none of the boats weight reasts on the c.b when on the trailer. Is this correct?
If so, then I have a problem because when I install the c.b so that it is fully in the trunk the pivot pin passes just in front of the board. (barely touches the board)
I am assuming that when the c.b. was repaired/glassed over, a part of the board near the pivot pin hole had been damaged/removed and was not replaced!
If all the above assumptions are correct - I am going to have to add on to the top of the c.b. I am capable of doing the glassing but would need a pattern.
Does anybody have their c.b. out of the boat that would be willing to send me a tracing ?? In return I offer free dockage (transient)on East Bay (part of St. Andrews Bay) including water and power! (About 15 miles east of Panama City, Florida on ICW)
(Actually this offer is good to anyone - just email me at schuh8@yahoo.com to arrange.)
Thanks in advance
Bud
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Bud, I also forgot to mention that my CB does protrude below the keel by about 1/4 inch when retracted. Thanks Doug --- Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> wrote:
Bud,
I would love to take you up on your bribe. That is some beautiful cruising area!
The older M15s may have some swelling in the centerboard trunk due to iron fillings expanding. Mine #310 was one of them. If you look at some old posting from Bob Eeg you can make a gauge out of something 1 3/8 inch wide and check the centerboard well width. When I installed my new centerboard with the pin in the board got stuck 3/4 of the way up.
I suspect there is more room fore and aft in the well than is needed. If the swelling is forward of the mid point you may be able to get the board up but not forward enough to reach the pin hole. My new board appeared to be slightly thinner forward.
I had to sand most of the gel coat off of both sides of my new board to get it to fit. --- Bud Holzschuh <schuh8@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi All
For those of you who remember I'm the guy trying to install a Montgomery 15 centerboard (hull #256) that had been removed from the boat and completely glassed over (closing the pivot pin hole).
Well - today I jacked up the boat, drove out the 1/2" ss pin (good condition) from the centerboard trunk and proceeded to try to fit the c.b. in the trunk.
Q: When the c.b. is correctly installed - I am assuming that it fully retracts inside the cb trunk so that none of the boats weight reasts on the c.b when on the trailer. Is this correct?
If so, then I have a problem because when I install the c.b so that it is fully in the trunk the pivot pin passes just in front of the board. (barely touches the board)
I am assuming that when the c.b. was repaired/glassed over, a part of the board near the pivot pin hole had been damaged/removed and was not replaced!
If all the above assumptions are correct - I am going to have to add on to the top of the c.b. I am capable of doing the glassing but would need a pattern.
Does anybody have their c.b. out of the boat that would be willing to send me a tracing ?? In return I offer free dockage (transient)on East Bay (part of St. Andrews Bay) including water and power! (About 15 miles east of Panama City, Florida on ICW)
(Actually this offer is good to anyone - just email me at schuh8@yahoo.com to arrange.)
Thanks in advance
Bud
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Bob -
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Doug Kelch