I would bet 'alot' that the new boats are heavier than the "old" boats from what I have seen. Just my observation and no science to back it up. Jerry built very good laminates, certainly not resin rich that I have ever seen on his boats (one reason to be 'heavy') - this is testament to his QC, as wrinkle boats must NOT be easy to lay-up! Just the thought gives me the willies, sliding cloth being chased up and down and across the molds on those strakes! I don't like ingesting/breathing additional nitrogen oxides. M-17 on a Trail-Rite trailer pulled by a 2003 Tacoma Dbl Cab 3.4L V6 auto 2WD - yes it is slow up hills but hauls grass on the flats. GO In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:17:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, andreic@math.wisc.edu writes: Hmm... That's interesting... perhaps that's why towing my M-17 feels so much heavier than my previous Compac 16. The Compac 16 is listed as 1100 lbs displacement, and the Monty 17 as 1600, but the difference felt like much more than 500 lbs. Has anyone else put an older Monty 17 and trailer on the scales? Sounds like it's time to upgrade my tow vehicle (ouch), mine has only 2000lbs tow capacity. How many people have added brakes to their trailer, and would that help? I am not too worried about engine power/transmission, as I almost only tow on flat land. Andrei. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000003)
I have pulled my 17 with a 4 cylinder jeep wrangler. It struggled going up hills and is definitely not an ideal towing vehicle considering how short it is. Trailer brakes were high on my upgrade list at the time. Now I have a jeep cherokee with 6 cylinder automatic and it pulls and stops well. IN my opinion the jeep cherokee is a good and pretty inexpensive tow vehicle and there appear to be lots of them on the used market. --Chad On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:59 PM, GILASAILR@aol.com wrote:
I would bet 'alot' that the new boats are heavier than the "old" boats from what I have seen. Just my observation and no science to back it up. Jerry built very good laminates, certainly not resin rich that I have ever seen on his boats (one reason to be 'heavy') - this is testament to his QC, as wrinkle boats must NOT be easy to lay-up! Just the thought gives me the willies, sliding cloth being chased up and down and across the molds on those strakes!
I don't like ingesting/breathing additional nitrogen oxides.
M-17 on a Trail-Rite trailer pulled by a 2003 Tacoma Dbl Cab 3.4L V6 auto 2WD - yes it is slow up hills but hauls grass on the flats.
GO
In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:17:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, andreic@math.wisc.edu writes:
Hmm... That's interesting... perhaps that's why towing my M-17 feels so much heavier than my previous Compac 16. The Compac 16 is listed as 1100 lbs displacement, and the Monty 17 as 1600, but the difference felt like much more than 500 lbs. Has anyone else put an older Monty 17 and trailer on the scales? Sounds like it's time to upgrade my tow vehicle (ouch), mine has only 2000lbs tow capacity. How many people have added brakes to their trailer, and would that help? I am not too worried about engine power/transmission, as I almost only tow on flat land.
Andrei.
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This is a little off the discussion of Toyotas pulling Monty's. But for what it's worth, I pull my M17 with my Dodge Dakota. I hardly notice it back there. Of course there is a gas price I pay but my next door neighbor who has a gas Tacoma says he's not all that impressed with his mileage either. Happy Easter everyone. And you guys out there..... get the lady some Easter Lilies. She deserves it for having to watch us, if nothing else, sit and ready our Monty emails!! Joe Seafrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: <GILASAILR@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Towing a monty 17
I would bet 'alot' that the new boats are heavier than the "old" boats from what I have seen. Just my observation and no science to back it up. Jerry built very good laminates, certainly not resin rich that I have ever seen on his boats (one reason to be 'heavy') - this is testament to his QC, as wrinkle boats must NOT be easy to lay-up! Just the thought gives me the willies, sliding cloth being chased up and down and across the molds on those strakes!
I don't like ingesting/breathing additional nitrogen oxides.
M-17 on a Trail-Rite trailer pulled by a 2003 Tacoma Dbl Cab 3.4L V6 auto 2WD - yes it is slow up hills but hauls grass on the flats.
GO
In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:17:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, andreic@math.wisc.edu writes:
Hmm... That's interesting... perhaps that's why towing my M-17 feels so much heavier than my previous Compac 16. The Compac 16 is listed as 1100 lbs displacement, and the Monty 17 as 1600, but the difference felt like much more than 500 lbs. Has anyone else put an older Monty 17 and trailer on the scales? Sounds like it's time to upgrade my tow vehicle (ouch), mine has only 2000lbs tow capacity. How many people have added brakes to their trailer, and would that help? I am not too worried about engine power/transmission, as I almost only tow on flat land.
Andrei.
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