In a message dated 9/22/2014 9:04:51 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, scoobscobie@gmail.com writes: again, you don't want ballast to move, EVER. That is what I am telling the 'owner' next time I am racing/crewing on someone else's boat and I am "tired" of moving about - as ballast! * * Incentives in the form of food & drink may allow for renewed energy and movement about the boat. Dave,JM, be forewarned...... {;>) GO