I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn. Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
hard to say. the clearance between the centerboard and the truck walls is small. a larger bolt may just sit on 'top' of the board. very small may try to 'wedge' between board and wall. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/9/14, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote: I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn. Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Go with the fellow who has the M15 experience. And try to fish that bolt out before you jam it between the board and the cb trunk. Good luck. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Ahh the trials and tribulations of jambing the M15 centerboard. It took me a long time to figure out why my M15 centerboard kept jamming. If I did not wash the sand and gravel out of the cockpit with the board down before I retrieved the boat the pea gravel would vibrate down the drain hole where the CB pennant goes. The pea gravel would then have 200 to 500 miles of travel to wedge itself in. There is almost no way to retrieve the bolt so be prepared to push the CB down the next time you launch. I had drilled a hole through the bridge deck and the lower splash board so that I could slide a 5/16 wooden dowl down to the board and push on it. This worked out well for a while but then the dowl broke off inside the CB trunk. The dowl floats and would not wash away with the boat in the water as there is no way for it to escape. I did not realize this at the time and the CB kept jamming. I then moved up to a piece of iron 3/4 inch square ( slightly smaller than the width of the drain hole) and about 3 inches long. In order for this to work I had to loosen the splash board to get the iron rod down the hole. If I made a square hole through the bridge deck I think I would have weakened the deck to much to safely stand on. The iron rod worked well for several years until last January when we were racing in heavy winds and waves and the piece of wooden dowl managed to jamb the board in the down position and I could not get it on the trailer. Brute force eventually got it on the trailer but it cost me $300 for the sailboat shop to hoist the boat and drive the CB down. Good luck PS Keep the winter sticks and leaves from going down the drain hole. Doug "M15 G #310 "Seas the Day" On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com>wrote:
Go with the fellow who has the M15 experience. And try to fish that bolt out before you jam it between the board and the cb trunk. Good luck.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
GOOD GRIEF!! How about plugging up the existing drain hole and running a tube out the back of the cockpit and through the transom. Put a flapper valve on the outside of it and call it a day? My cockpit drain is plugged also, at the moment. A squirrel decided that the drain hole in the cockpit would hold a nice supply of acorns. And so it goes. Fair winds, Tom B Mont 17 #258, '77 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Douglas Kelch <doug1kelch@gmail.com> wrote:
Ahh the trials and tribulations of jambing the M15 centerboard. It took me a long time to figure out why my M15 centerboard kept jamming. If I did not wash the sand and gravel out of the cockpit with the board down before I retrieved the boat the pea gravel would vibrate down the drain hole where the CB pennant goes. The pea gravel would then have 200 to 500 miles of travel to wedge itself in.
There is almost no way to retrieve the bolt so be prepared to push the CB down the next time you launch. I had drilled a hole through the bridge deck and the lower splash board so that I could slide a 5/16 wooden dowl down to the board and push on it. This worked out well for a while but then the dowl broke off inside the CB trunk.
The dowl floats and would not wash away with the boat in the water as there is no way for it to escape. I did not realize this at the time and the CB kept jamming. I then moved up to a piece of iron 3/4 inch square ( slightly smaller than the width of the drain hole) and about 3 inches long. In order for this to work I had to loosen the splash board to get the iron rod down the hole. If I made a square hole through the bridge deck I think I would have weakened the deck to much to safely stand on.
The iron rod worked well for several years until last January when we were racing in heavy winds and waves and the piece of wooden dowl managed to jamb the board in the down position and I could not get it on the trailer. Brute force eventually got it on the trailer but it cost me $300 for the sailboat shop to hoist the boat and drive the CB down.
Good luck
PS Keep the winter sticks and leaves from going down the drain hole.
Doug "M15 G #310 "Seas the Day"
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com
wrote:
Go with the fellow who has the M15 experience. And try to fish that bolt out before you jam it between the board and the cb trunk. Good luck.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
M15s and M17s drain entirely differently. The M15s cockpit floor slants toward the cabin (and thus the centerboard line/drain hole), so to cut a transom hole wouldn't do a lot of good... I suspect a bolt will eventually cause the CB to jam. Dave is right...drop the board and clear the obstruction. t t _/\_ On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
GOOD GRIEF!! How about plugging up the existing drain hole and running a tube out the back of the cockpit and through the transom. Put a flapper valve on the outside of it and call it a day? My cockpit drain is plugged also, at the moment. A squirrel decided that the drain hole in the cockpit would hold a nice supply of acorns. And so it goes.
Fair winds, Tom B Mont 17 #258, '77
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Douglas Kelch <doug1kelch@gmail.com> wrote:
Ahh the trials and tribulations of jambing the M15 centerboard. It took me a long time to figure out why my M15 centerboard kept jamming. If I did not wash the sand and gravel out of the cockpit with the board down before I retrieved the boat the pea gravel would vibrate down the drain hole where the CB pennant goes. The pea gravel would then have 200 to 500 miles of travel to wedge itself in.
There is almost no way to retrieve the bolt so be prepared to push the CB down the next time you launch. I had drilled a hole through the bridge deck and the lower splash board so that I could slide a 5/16 wooden dowl down to the board and push on it. This worked out well for a while but then the dowl broke off inside the CB trunk.
The dowl floats and would not wash away with the boat in the water as there is no way for it to escape. I did not realize this at the time and the CB kept jamming. I then moved up to a piece of iron 3/4 inch square ( slightly smaller than the width of the drain hole) and about 3 inches long. In order for this to work I had to loosen the splash board to get the iron rod down the hole. If I made a square hole through the bridge deck I think I would have weakened the deck to much to safely stand on.
The iron rod worked well for several years until last January when we were racing in heavy winds and waves and the piece of wooden dowl managed to jamb the board in the down position and I could not get it on the trailer. Brute force eventually got it on the trailer but it cost me $300 for the sailboat shop to hoist the boat and drive the CB down.
Good luck
PS Keep the winter sticks and leaves from going down the drain hole.
Doug "M15 G #310 "Seas the Day"
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com
wrote:
Go with the fellow who has the M15 experience. And try to fish that bolt out before you jam it between the board and the cb trunk. Good luck.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
I have learned from the school of experience that I need to scoop out the gunk from around the drain hole with my fingers, then flush with a hose and nozzle to keep my M-15 center board free and the drain working. Did get an estimate from a local boat shop on hoisting the boat to allow the center board to drop all the way down, but the estimate inspired me try my fingers and hose. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:55 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
M15s and M17s drain entirely differently. The M15s cockpit floor slants toward the cabin (and thus the centerboard line/drain hole), so to cut a transom hole wouldn't do a lot of good...
I suspect a bolt will eventually cause the CB to jam. Dave is right...drop the board and clear the obstruction. t
t _/\_
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
GOOD GRIEF!! How about plugging up the existing drain hole and running a tube out the back of the cockpit and through the transom. Put a flapper valve on the outside of it and call it a day? My cockpit drain is plugged also, at the moment. A squirrel decided that the drain hole in the cockpit would hold a nice supply of acorns. And so it goes.
Fair winds, Tom B Mont 17 #258, '77
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Douglas Kelch <doug1kelch@gmail.com> wrote:
Ahh the trials and tribulations of jambing the M15 centerboard. It took me a long time to figure out why my M15 centerboard kept jamming. If I did not wash the sand and gravel out of the cockpit with the board down before I retrieved the boat the pea gravel would vibrate down the drain hole where the CB pennant goes. The pea gravel would then have 200 to 500 miles of travel to wedge itself in.
There is almost no way to retrieve the bolt so be prepared to push the CB down the next time you launch. I had drilled a hole through the bridge deck and the lower splash board so that I could slide a 5/16 wooden dowl down to the board and push on it. This worked out well for a while but then the dowl broke off inside the CB trunk.
The dowl floats and would not wash away with the boat in the water as there is no way for it to escape. I did not realize this at the time and the CB kept jamming. I then moved up to a piece of iron 3/4 inch square ( slightly smaller than the width of the drain hole) and about 3 inches long. In order for this to work I had to loosen the splash board to get the iron rod down the hole. If I made a square hole through the bridge deck I think I would have weakened the deck to much to safely stand on.
The iron rod worked well for several years until last January when we were racing in heavy winds and waves and the piece of wooden dowl managed to jamb the board in the down position and I could not get it on the trailer. Brute force eventually got it on the trailer but it cost me $300 for the sailboat shop to hoist the boat and drive the CB down.
Good luck
PS Keep the winter sticks and leaves from going down the drain hole.
Doug "M15 G #310 "Seas the Day"
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com
wrote:
Go with the fellow who has the M15 experience. And try to fish that bolt out before you jam it between the board and the cb trunk. Good luck.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Try using a magnet. George -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:52 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard Go with the fellow who has the M15 experience. And try to fish that bolt out before you jam it between the board and the cb trunk. Good luck. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Kevin: you are correct that the cockpit drain and the centerboard pennant hole are the same on the M15. water entering the cockpit drains through the centerboard trunk and around the centerboard. Doug K provides great first person experience (I never jammed my M15's board). The bolt you lost 'down the hole', unless really small, will not drop out of the trunk without the board being dropped out the boat. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/9/14, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote: I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Kevin: you are correct that the cockpit drain and the centerboard pennant hole are the same on the M15. water entering the cockpit drains through the centerboard trunk and around the centerboard. Doug K provides great first person experience (I never jammed my M15's board). The bolt you lost 'down the hole', unless really small, will not drop out of the trunk without the board being dropped out the boat. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/9/14, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote: I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Kevin: you are correct that the cockpit drain and the centerboard pennant hole are the same on the M15. water entering the cockpit drains through the centerboard trunk and around the centerboard. Doug K provides great first person experience (I never jammed my M15's board). The bolt you lost 'down the hole', unless really small, will not drop out of the trunk without the board being dropped out the boat. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/9/14, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote: I read on one of these posts that the drain leads directly to the center board slot in the keel and that things that stuff that finds its way through the drain hole can end up wedging between the centerboard and the keel trunk. One fellow said that he even puts stainless steel mesh over the drain to prevent that from happening. Too late in my case. If that is not the case, I'm delighted. -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:40 PM Seems that your cockpit drain would not have anything to do with your centerboard well. You may want to remove it from your drain though. It will just catch more and more crud down there and eventually you won't have any draining done. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Hi Kevin,If your bolt is NOT stainless you can try a little magnet on a string. If it is SS you can try a piece of coat hanger wire bent in a "J " shape at the bottom and go fishing down the hole sort of hooking and jerking.Finally, it is difficult but possible to jack up the bow end of the 15 on the trailer high enough to let the CB descend if it will and if not you can try poking a saw blade or thin steel ruler up from the bottom to dislodge the bolt. Success or failure will depend largely on the size of the bolt and whether or not it has already become trapped . Take it slow and persist. Good luck. RTH -----Original Message----- From: Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:07 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn. Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Robert, Let's say this is one of those instances where "great minds think alike" (just kidding). Mid-afternoon while sitting in a work meeting that droned on and on, I too came up with the idea of slipping a magnet on a string down into the hole. A stop at my local hardware store on the way home from work, and a $5 investment, provided an even better mechanism (a powerful magnet on the end of a bendable rod, evidently designed to retrieve lost jewelry, etc. from sink drains). Anyway, it worked on the first try! Whew. I was about to lose some sleep over that one. I plan to insert some rust proof screen or something like that (gutter guard?) in the drain hole to prevent this from happening again. Thanks everyone for your support, sympathy, and ingenious ideas! Kevin ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hall [bert.hall@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:36 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard Hi Kevin,If your bolt is NOT stainless you can try a little magnet on a string. If it is SS you can try a piece of coat hanger wire bent in a "J " shape at the bottom and go fishing down the hole sort of hooking and jerking.Finally, it is difficult but possible to jack up the bow end of the 15 on the trailer high enough to let the CB descend if it will and if not you can try poking a saw blade or thin steel ruler up from the bottom to dislodge the bolt. Success or failure will depend largely on the size of the bolt and whether or not it has already become trapped . Take it slow and persist. Good luck. RTH -----Original Message----- From: Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:07 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn. Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Try a stainless steel "Chore Boy" . Take two of them and put one on each side of the CB Pennant hole/drain. Works for me......Larry in Old 189. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:10 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard - problem solved Robert, Let's say this is one of those instances where "great minds think alike" (just kidding). Mid-afternoon while sitting in a work meeting that droned on and on, I too came up with the idea of slipping a magnet on a string down into the hole. A stop at my local hardware store on the way home from work, and a $5 investment, provided an even better mechanism (a powerful magnet on the end of a bendable rod, evidently designed to retrieve lost jewelry, etc. from sink drains). Anyway, it worked on the first try! Whew. I was about to lose some sleep over that one. I plan to insert some rust proof screen or something like that (gutter guard?) in the drain hole to prevent this from happening again. Thanks everyone for your support, sympathy, and ingenious ideas! Kevin ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hall [bert.hall@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:36 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard Hi Kevin,If your bolt is NOT stainless you can try a little magnet on a string. If it is SS you can try a piece of coat hanger wire bent in a "J " shape at the bottom and go fishing down the hole sort of hooking and jerking.Finally, it is difficult but possible to jack up the bow end of the 15 on the trailer high enough to let the CB descend if it will and if not you can try poking a saw blade or thin steel ruler up from the bottom to dislodge the bolt. Success or failure will depend largely on the size of the bolt and whether or not it has already become trapped . Take it slow and persist. Good luck. RTH -----Original Message----- From: Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:07 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn. Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
Great idea. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:14 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard - problem solved Try a stainless steel "Chore Boy" . Take two of them and put one on each side of the CB Pennant hole/drain. Works for me......Larry in Old 189. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:10 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard - problem solved Robert, Let's say this is one of those instances where "great minds think alike" (just kidding). Mid-afternoon while sitting in a work meeting that droned on and on, I too came up with the idea of slipping a magnet on a string down into the hole. A stop at my local hardware store on the way home from work, and a $5 investment, provided an even better mechanism (a powerful magnet on the end of a bendable rod, evidently designed to retrieve lost jewelry, etc. from sink drains). Anyway, it worked on the first try! Whew. I was about to lose some sleep over that one. I plan to insert some rust proof screen or something like that (gutter guard?) in the drain hole to prevent this from happening again. Thanks everyone for your support, sympathy, and ingenious ideas! Kevin ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hall [bert.hall@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:36 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard Hi Kevin,If your bolt is NOT stainless you can try a little magnet on a string. If it is SS you can try a piece of coat hanger wire bent in a "J " shape at the bottom and go fishing down the hole sort of hooking and jerking.Finally, it is difficult but possible to jack up the bow end of the 15 on the trailer high enough to let the CB descend if it will and if not you can try poking a saw blade or thin steel ruler up from the bottom to dislodge the bolt. Success or failure will depend largely on the size of the bolt and whether or not it has already become trapped . Take it slow and persist. Good luck. RTH -----Original Message----- From: Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:07 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn. Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
On 09-Apr-14 6:36 PM, Robert Hall wrote: Hi M-15 owners, How about getting some bronze wool and stuffing a small wad in the centerboard pennant hole. The water in the cockpit can drain, but debris can't get into the hole to jam your centerboard. Connie
Hi Kevin,If your bolt is NOT stainless you can try a little magnet on a string. If it is SS you can try a piece of coat hanger wire bent in a "J " shape at the bottom and go fishing down the hole sort of hooking and jerking.Finally, it is difficult but possible to jack up the bow end of the 15 on the trailer high enough to let the CB descend if it will and if not you can try poking a saw blade or thin steel ruler up from the bottom to dislodge the bolt. Success or failure will depend largely on the size of the bolt and whether or not it has already become trapped . Take it slow and persist. Good luck. RTH
-----Original Message----- From: Kearns, Kevin P Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:07 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: M15 Centerboard
I just dropped a bolt in the cockpit of my M15 and, of course, it found its way down the drain. It is on the trailer now, so I can't check to see if this will jam the board...I'll have to wait till I launch it. Does anyone know what my chances are of this jamming the board? Nothing I can do now, but I would appreciate some experiences. Darn.
Kevin Kearns, M15 #518 Pittsburgh
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