Hi Folks: My yacht club has a power hoist and I've been thinking of rigging my M-15 to use the lift. Advantages are: I can leave the mast up and rudder on when sailing out of the club a lot and there would be less corrosion on the trailer. Has enyone done this? Do you know where the center-of-gravity is? I read where the factory uses the shroud eyes to lift the bare boat onto the trailer but they seem a little small to me. My thoughts are to install a 3/8" eyebolts, on either side, through the deck about 15" to the rear of the shroud eyes and 3/4" inboard of the toerail, backed with a hardwood strip and fender washer. I would use doubled 2x4 for a spreader and lift using 1/2" double braid. Most of the (1,200# ??) weight would be on the eyebolts and I would bridle to the stern cleats to keep her level. The eyebolts have a working load of 1,400# each and hopefully the deck could take the load. The widest point on the beam and most of the keel is aft of this point so I guess that the center of gravity is a foot or so aft of the companionway. Any thoghts? Don Ludlow M-15 #620 Sweet Dream -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:17 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 9, Issue 9 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Omega 14 (Honshells) 2. RE: stanchions (The Tentmakers) 3. RE: wick stove (Bill Riker) 4. stern rail that doubles as boom crutch (MC Carpenter) 5. Re: stanchions Coast Guard (MC Carpenter) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:22:37 -0500 From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Subject: M_Boats: Omega 14 To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <004201c3a282$e636b8e0$564db3cf@ajrogers> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks! I've had my eye on the Escapes, because they seem so simple and low maintenance . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: Debaene To: wayne yeargain ; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: Omega 14 Hi Honshells, I agree with Wayne. The Omega 14 is a great little boat, stable, it has a nice large cockpit, easy to rig and sail, and self bailing! Again, like Wayne said, you might have a hard time finding one, they've been out of production for several years. For us too, the little boat found us. Another simple rigged, virtually maintenance free and easy brand of boats are the Escape sailboats: http://llboats.com/Escape.html Good luck in your quest. Jan Paul wayne@ev1.net wrote: Hi Honshells Not to detract from the excellent sailing characteristics, and salty beauty of the M boats, I admit to also owning another brand. I didn't choose the Omega particularly, rather it choose me when the previous owner, decided after two unsucessful attempts to sail, he didn't like sailing and offrered it very cheap. I couldn't afford not to buy it. Its a nice little boat east to tow, easy to rig, and easy to sail, there are lots of daysailers that fit this catagory, go out and find one that speaks to you. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: M_Boats: Omega 14 I'm looking for small, open, but very stable sailboat, incredibly simple to rig and easy to singlehand, to sail on small inland lakes . . . My M17 is more suitable for Lake Michigan sailing, and I dry-sail it (store it mast-up on the trailer) to avoid the hassles of trailering and rigging . . . Anyway, could the Omega 14' be the small-lake boat I want? ----- Original Message ----- From: Debaene To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Omega 14 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: no such e-mail address Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:25:46 -0600 From: Wayne <Wayne@ev1.net> To: Debaene <sukenaja@netscape.net> -----Original Message----- From: Debaene [mailto:sukenaja@netscape.net] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:57 AM To: wayne yeargain Subject: Omega 14 Hi Wayne, I've tried to find other Omega 14 owners on the internet . . . not much luck, so it's nice to find another owner who's willing to communicate. My boat is from '82 I believe. We bought it from an old fellow who moved into an assisted living facility. He hadn't sailed it for quite a few years and the part to hold the centerboard in place is missing. I've jerry-rigged something with a dowl and a rope around the mast to keep the centerboard in place, but it is less then ideal. I was wondering if you could give me the measurements of that part and perhaps a picture of what it looks like. We love the little boat, we can fit all 5 of us (2 adults, 3 children) and had a lot of fun with it already (bought it in Sept. this year). We still have a Banshee (~12ft, cat-rigged), which is not nearly as roomy, dry or forgiving for family sailing. Looking forward to your reply. Regards, Jan wayne@ev1.net wrote: Hi Jan Glad to hear you have a Omega, I have one also, great little boat mines a '78, also have a Sunfish of indeterminate age, and a '76 M17. Sometimes if i'm going to a place where I know there is little wind (most state parks for example) I'll take the Omega, it does well in light winds. Regards Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Debaene To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Gas filling.. We have one of those gas cans described below. It is wonderful! Never, ever spilled gas anymore! The only downside is that it doesn't work on cars, only on lawnmowers or other similar gas tanks. Jan Paul Debaene Capri Omega 14 (dreaming of a Montgomery) the_tentmakers@hotmail.com wrote: Hi. We're new to the list ... own a 1974 Montgomery 17 that has been restored and has some improvements. I noted the item about filling tanks on small motors: Briggs and Stratton makes [or made] a one gallon can with a patented fill tube that shut off automatically when the receiving tank was full. No muss .. no fuss .. no bother. I think they are still available at good lawnmower shops etc. H. Dale and Gloria L. 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Don, If you search the archives you might find something on the subject. I think I remember that the factory lifts the M15 by the bow and stern cleats. When I replaced the centerboard in the M15 I used the Marina hoist and used the cleats for the attachment points and it worked quite well. I did use some safety straps under the hull as well since I was working under it for a bit. I believe the center of balance was actually about 4 - 6 inchs forward of the cockpit opening. A set of lifting straps would work quite well and relieve the anxiety but they tend to get between the boat and the trailer bunk beds when lowering back on the trailer. --- "Ludlow, Don" <LudlowD@BEK.com> wrote:
Hi Folks: My yacht club has a power hoist and I've been thinking of rigging my M-15 to use the lift. Advantages are: I can leave the mast up and rudder on when sailing out of the club a lot and there would be less corrosion on the trailer. Has enyone done this? Do you know where the center-of-gravity is? I read where the factory uses the shroud eyes to lift the bare boat onto the trailer but they seem a little small to me. My thoughts are to install a 3/8" eyebolts, on either side, through the deck about 15" to the rear of the shroud eyes and 3/4" inboard of the toerail, backed with a hardwood strip and fender washer. I would use doubled 2x4 for a spreader and lift using 1/2" double braid. Most of the (1,200# ??) weight would be on the eyebolts and I would bridle to the stern cleats to keep her level. The eyebolts have a working load of 1,400# each and hopefully the deck could take the load. The widest point on the beam and most of the keel is aft of this point so I guess that the center of gravity is a foot or so aft of the companionway. Any thoghts? Don Ludlow M-15 #620 Sweet Dream
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