Thanks to Dan, Tom, and Dave for the sage advice. Not what I expected at all. O.K. I will look into the 'archives' for info about mast rake and I guess the main thing is to get comfortable reefing way-earlier. I hadn't thought about whether the main was flat-enough. I really thought the mast rake was too far aft. Oh, does Bruce King really sail a M-15? I've spend far more time in Ericsons than I have in M's. Thanks! Steve M-15 631
Usually the mast rake is fine on these boats. I doubt there is much problem there. You can check. But the main thing is that the main overpowers the boat with the center of effort aft. So, too much sail. Daniel On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Steve Varley wrote:
Thanks to Dan, Tom, and Dave for the sage advice. Not what I expected at all. O.K. I will look into the 'archives' for info about mast rake and I guess the main thing is to get comfortable reefing way-earlier. I hadn't thought about whether the main was flat-enough. I really thought the mast rake was too far aft.
Oh, does Bruce King really sail a M-15? I've spend far more time in Ericsons than I have in M's.
Thanks! Steve M-15 631
Hi All, Our 2007 Montgomery 17' sailboat with 2010 Pacific galvanized trailer. The former "Pony Engine" now "Knot Bored!" is up for sale. She is loaded with extras. Factory molded gray non-skid, custom mainsail and 90% Harken roller-furling jib, all by Doyle. Blue mail sail cover. Boomkicker and custom SS stern pulpits and blue Sunbrella weather cloth. 2007 Honda 2hp 4 stroke outboard. 3 coat epoxy below the waterline. 110 power receptacle w/25' cord. Custom teak cockpit grate. Interior plastic grating throughout. Chemical bucket head. New Ida Sailor kick up rudder. Check out the price of a new one equipped like this, then come see this one. She's a beauty. ;-) Please call: (916) 543-3536 or email: efwhitehead@earthlink.net
Hi, I'm sure you won't have any trouble selling 'Knot Bored'. I'm sure this isn't the reply you were looking for but, can you tell me where you got your stern rail?? Thanks, Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer Hi All, Our 2007 Montgomery 17' sailboat with 2010 Pacific galvanized trailer. The former "Pony Engine" now "Knot Bored!" is up for sale. She is loaded with extras. Factory molded gray non-skid, custom mainsail and 90% Harken roller-furling jib, all by Doyle. Blue mail sail cover. Boomkicker and custom SS stern pulpits and blue Sunbrella weather cloth. 2007 Honda 2hp 4 stroke outboard. 3 coat epoxy below the waterline. 110 power receptacle w/25' cord. Custom teak cockpit grate. Interior plastic grating throughout. Chemical bucket head. New Ida Sailor kick up rudder. Check out the price of a new one equipped like this, then come see this one. She's a beauty. ;-) Please call: (916) 543-3536 or email: efwhitehead@earthlink.net
Joe, I talked to the prior owner about the stern rails and the teak flooring. I ordered the flooring from the same company but the rails were $1,200-$1,600 each if I remember correctly. Way too much for my budget. They were made at the stainless shop at Svendsens Boat Works in the San Francisco area. Ed, wherever you advertise make sure to show some pic's of the gray non-skid it really makes the boat look great. I talked to Bob about that and he said it was a lot of extra work to tape off and add that separate color to the non-skid. The boat is exceptional and should sell fast. Jim E. M-17 #603 Grace -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:37 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer Hi, I'm sure you won't have any trouble selling 'Knot Bored'. I'm sure this isn't the reply you were looking for but, can you tell me where you got your stern rail?? Thanks, Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer Hi All, Our 2007 Montgomery 17' sailboat with 2010 Pacific galvanized trailer. The former "Pony Engine" now "Knot Bored!" is up for sale. She is loaded with extras. Factory molded gray non-skid, custom mainsail and 90% Harken roller-furling jib, all by Doyle. Blue mail sail cover. Boomkicker and custom SS stern pulpits and blue Sunbrella weather cloth. 2007 Honda 2hp 4 stroke outboard. 3 coat epoxy below the waterline. 110 power receptacle w/25' cord. Custom teak cockpit grate. Interior plastic grating throughout. Chemical bucket head. New Ida Sailor kick up rudder. Check out the price of a new one equipped like this, then come see this one. She's a beauty. ;-) Please call: (916) 543-3536 or email: efwhitehead@earthlink.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4928 - Release Date: 04/11/12
Thanks Jim, I'll try and do that. I do have a picture of her from above but the picture doesn't do her gray decks justice. :-) On , Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net> wrote:
Joe,
I talked to the prior owner about the stern rails and the teak flooring. I
ordered the flooring from the same company but the rails were $1,200-$1,600
each if I remember correctly. Way too much for my budget. They were made at
the stainless shop at Svendsens Boat Works in the San Francisco area.
Ed, wherever you advertise make sure to show some pic's of the gray non-skid
it really makes the boat look great. I talked to Bob about that and he said
it was a lot of extra work to tape off and add that separate color to the
non-skid. The boat is exceptional and should sell fast.
Jim E.
M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com
[mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:37 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer
Hi,
I'm sure you won't have any trouble selling 'Knot Bored'. I'm sure this
isn't the reply you were looking for but, can you tell me where you got your
stern rail??
Thanks,
Joe
SeaFrog M17
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer
Hi All,
Our 2007 Montgomery 17' sailboat with 2010 Pacific galvanized trailer. The
former "Pony Engine" now "Knot Bored!" is up for sale. She is loaded with
extras. Factory molded gray non-skid, custom mainsail and 90% Harken
roller-furling jib, all by Doyle. Blue mail sail cover. Boomkicker and
custom SS stern pulpits and blue Sunbrella weather cloth. 2007 Honda 2hp 4
stroke outboard. 3 coat epoxy below the waterline. 110 power receptacle
w/25' cord. Custom teak cockpit grate. Interior plastic grating
throughout.
Chemical bucket head. New Ida Sailor kick up rudder. Check out the price
of
a new one equipped like this, then come see this one. She's a beauty. ;-)
Please call: (916) 543-3536 or email: efwhitehead@earthlink.net
-----
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It was Swensons in Alameda. I met Scott there when he was having them installed. By the way, this is a beautiful boat. Jim M-17 "Spirit" On Apr 11, 2012, at 9:54 PM, whitehead361@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jim, I'll try and do that. I do have a picture of her from above but the picture doesn't do her gray decks justice. :-)
On , Jim Ellsworth <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net> wrote:
Joe,
I talked to the prior owner about the stern rails and the teak flooring. I
ordered the flooring from the same company but the rails were $1,200-$1,600
each if I remember correctly. Way too much for my budget. They were made at
the stainless shop at Svendsens Boat Works in the San Francisco area.
Ed, wherever you advertise make sure to show some pic's of the gray non-skid
it really makes the boat look great. I talked to Bob about that and he said
it was a lot of extra work to tape off and add that separate color to the
non-skid. The boat is exceptional and should sell fast.
Jim E.
M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message-----
From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com
[mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:37 AM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer
Hi,
I'm sure you won't have any trouble selling 'Knot Bored'. I'm sure this
isn't the reply you were looking for but, can you tell me where you got your
stern rail??
Thanks,
Joe
SeaFrog M17
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer
Hi All,
Our 2007 Montgomery 17' sailboat with 2010 Pacific galvanized trailer. The
former "Pony Engine" now "Knot Bored!" is up for sale. She is loaded with
extras. Factory molded gray non-skid, custom mainsail and 90% Harken
roller-furling jib, all by Doyle. Blue mail sail cover. Boomkicker and
custom SS stern pulpits and blue Sunbrella weather cloth. 2007 Honda 2hp 4
stroke outboard. 3 coat epoxy below the waterline. 110 power receptacle
w/25' cord. Custom teak cockpit grate. Interior plastic grating
throughout.
Chemical bucket head. New Ida Sailor kick up rudder. Check out the price
of
a new one equipped like this, then come see this one. She's a beauty. ;-)
Please call: (916) 543-3536 or email: efwhitehead@earthlink.net
-----
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I'm not totally sure. The boats previous owner had them installed. He did say they were pricy. I think it was Svenson's in Alameda but I can't swear to that. I have had several inquiries already so I'm hopeful. :-) On , Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm sure you won't have any trouble selling 'Knot Bored'. I'm sure this isn't the reply you were looking for but, can you tell me where you got your stern rail??
Thanks,
Joe
SeaFrog M17
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2007 M-17 for sale with 2010 Pacific trailer
Hi All,
Our 2007 Montgomery 17' sailboat with 2010 Pacific galvanized trailer. The
former "Pony Engine" now "Knot Bored!" is up for sale. She is loaded with
extras. Factory molded gray non-skid, custom mainsail and 90% Harken
roller-furling jib, all by Doyle. Blue mail sail cover. Boomkicker and
custom SS stern pulpits and blue Sunbrella weather cloth. 2007 Honda 2hp 4
stroke outboard. 3 coat epoxy below the waterline. 110 power receptacle
w/25' cord. Custom teak cockpit grate. Interior plastic grating throughout.
Chemical bucket head. New Ida Sailor kick up rudder. Check out the price of
a new one equipped like this, then come see this one. She's a beauty. ;-)
Please call: (916) 543-3536 or email: efwhitehead@earthlink.net
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