Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue / vinegar
Had a friend that was married to a Japanese woman. He was waiting for a heart transplant and using modern drugs, couldn't get his cholesterol down enough for the operation. He then went to his wife's Dr. who put him on a regiment of one tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of water twice a day and his cholesterol was down enough in a month to have his operation. Whodathunk? sal In a message dated 11/18/2011 10:27:11 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, seagray@embarqmail.com writes: Does it have to be brown cider vinegar? Is clear OK. Never heard of using vinegar for this kind of work. Just another great thing to add to the list of all the unique and wonderful things that you can do with vinegar. Thanks everyone for all the great advice on the Wood Glue. JOe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: wudnboatlovr@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue When working with epoxy, I keep a bottle of brown cider vinegar handy. It is a very effective, non-flamable solvent for epoxy clean-up. I even use it to make disposable brushes re-usable. Try it! You'll like it. Leif Eriksson -----Original Message----- From: jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 2:32 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue I think Dave is essentially correct, except that if you use oval heads (I on't think you need washers) just bed the shelves in epoxy putty, and the est procedure would be to drill and install the shelves dry and run masking ape around the shelves (on the inside of the bulkhead), then remove the helves, cleanly spread the epoxy putty using a slight excess, screw the helves in place, then using a sharp putty knife clean up the excess that's queezed out, then pull the tape. If you do a clean job there won't be any ess to clean up, but if you can't help being a clumsy fool, the mess can be leaned up with lacquer thinner. Acetone will clean up the mess but it'll reat another by attacking the gelcoat that the inside of the bulkhead is ainted with. jerry ---- Original Message ----- rom: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> o: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:43 AM ubject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue oe: if i understand your reference to 'JB weld' correctly you are just going to lue a piece of wood to the bulkhead (ie, a butt joint). my concern is that this joint will come apart ... mostly from the abuse our oats experience bouncing on their trailers along the roads and highways. i've thought of installing shelves as you describe to my M17. over and over 've come the following opinion - better - tab your attachment points to the bulkhead using epoxy and iberglass mat & cloth. best - screw or bolt thru the bulkhead along with tabbing as noted above in better'. use oval head fasteners and finishing washers. : Dave Scobie : Sage Marine --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: The top of the shelves will have a box to cover the backside of the compass on the port side and the depth gauge on the starboard side. Inside the box I'll use a block attached with JB weld and at the bottom I'll use a french hasp. I'll post pictures when it's all done. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:08 PM joe: matt, sage marine's woodworking guy, recommends (in order listed) - * west system epoxy or * titebond 3 (used for exterior applications) are you going to bolt/screw through the cabin bulkhead to hand the shelves? :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I'm making mahogany bulkhead shelves to put on the inside cabin bulkhead. I'm looking for advice on what would be the best glue to use for mahogany. I'll use typical morticed joints and babbet corners and prefer not to use any screws, etc. Thanks much Joe SeaFrog M17
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Cleaned out the resin :) On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:29 PM, <SALGLESSER@aol.com> wrote:
Had a friend that was married to a Japanese woman. He was waiting for a heart transplant and using modern drugs, couldn't get his cholesterol down enough for the operation. He then went to his wife's Dr. who put him on a regiment of one tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of water twice a day and his cholesterol was down enough in a month to have his operation. Whodathunk?
sal
In a message dated 11/18/2011 10:27:11 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, seagray@embarqmail.com writes:
Does it have to be brown cider vinegar? Is clear OK. Never heard of using vinegar for this kind of work. Just another great thing to add to the list of all the unique and wonderful things that you can do with vinegar. Thanks everyone for all the great advice on the Wood Glue. JOe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: wudnboatlovr@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue
When working with epoxy, I keep a bottle of brown cider vinegar handy. It is a very effective, non-flamable solvent for epoxy clean-up. I even use it to make disposable brushes re-usable. Try it! You'll like it.
Leif Eriksson
-----Original Message----- From: jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 2:32 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue
I think Dave is essentially correct, except that if you use oval heads (I on't think you need washers) just bed the shelves in epoxy putty, and the est procedure would be to drill and install the shelves dry and run masking ape around the shelves (on the inside of the bulkhead), then remove the helves, cleanly spread the epoxy putty using a slight excess, screw the helves in place, then using a sharp putty knife clean up the excess that's queezed out, then pull the tape. If you do a clean job there won't be any ess to clean up, but if you can't help being a clumsy fool, the mess can be
leaned up with lacquer thinner. Acetone will clean up the mess but it'll reat another by attacking the gelcoat that the inside of the bulkhead is ainted with. jerry ---- Original Message ----- rom: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> o: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:43 AM ubject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue
oe: if i understand your reference to 'JB weld' correctly you are just going to lue a piece of wood to the bulkhead (ie, a butt joint). my concern is that this joint will come apart ... mostly from the abuse our oats experience bouncing on their trailers along the roads and highways. i've thought of installing shelves as you describe to my M17. over and over 've come the following opinion - better - tab your attachment points to the bulkhead using epoxy and iberglass mat & cloth. best - screw or bolt thru the bulkhead along with tabbing as noted above in better'. use oval head fasteners and finishing washers.
: Dave Scobie : Sage Marine --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: The top of the shelves will have a box to cover the backside of the compass on the port side and the depth gauge on the starboard side. Inside the box I'll use a block attached with JB weld and at the bottom I'll use a french hasp. I'll post pictures when it's all done. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:08 PM
joe:
matt, sage marine's woodworking guy, recommends (in order listed) -
* west system epoxy
or
* titebond 3 (used for exterior applications)
are you going to bolt/screw through the cabin bulkhead to hand the shelves?
:: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine
--- On Wed, 11/16/11, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I'm making mahogany bulkhead shelves to put on the inside cabin bulkhead. I'm looking for advice on what would be the best glue to use for mahogany. I'll use typical morticed joints and babbet corners and prefer not to use any screws, etc. Thanks much Joe SeaFrog M17
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My father-in-law used to do the same thing for his gout. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: SALGLESSER@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue / vinegar Had a friend that was married to a Japanese woman. He was waiting for a heart transplant and using modern drugs, couldn't get his cholesterol down enough for the operation. He then went to his wife's Dr. who put him on a regiment of one tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of water twice a day and his cholesterol was down enough in a month to have his operation. Whodathunk? sal In a message dated 11/18/2011 10:27:11 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, seagray@embarqmail.com writes: Does it have to be brown cider vinegar? Is clear OK. Never heard of using vinegar for this kind of work. Just another great thing to add to the list of all the unique and wonderful things that you can do with vinegar. Thanks everyone for all the great advice on the Wood Glue. JOe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: wudnboatlovr@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue When working with epoxy, I keep a bottle of brown cider vinegar handy. It is a very effective, non-flamable solvent for epoxy clean-up. I even use it to make disposable brushes re-usable. Try it! You'll like it. Leif Eriksson -----Original Message----- From: jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 2:32 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue I think Dave is essentially correct, except that if you use oval heads (I on't think you need washers) just bed the shelves in epoxy putty, and the est procedure would be to drill and install the shelves dry and run masking ape around the shelves (on the inside of the bulkhead), then remove the helves, cleanly spread the epoxy putty using a slight excess, screw the helves in place, then using a sharp putty knife clean up the excess that's queezed out, then pull the tape. If you do a clean job there won't be any ess to clean up, but if you can't help being a clumsy fool, the mess can be leaned up with lacquer thinner. Acetone will clean up the mess but it'll reat another by attacking the gelcoat that the inside of the bulkhead is ainted with. jerry ---- Original Message ----- rom: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> o: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:43 AM ubject: Re: M_Boats: Wood Glue oe: if i understand your reference to 'JB weld' correctly you are just going to lue a piece of wood to the bulkhead (ie, a butt joint). my concern is that this joint will come apart ... mostly from the abuse our oats experience bouncing on their trailers along the roads and highways. i've thought of installing shelves as you describe to my M17. over and over 've come the following opinion - better - tab your attachment points to the bulkhead using epoxy and iberglass mat & cloth. best - screw or bolt thru the bulkhead along with tabbing as noted above in better'. use oval head fasteners and finishing washers. : Dave Scobie : Sage Marine --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote: The top of the shelves will have a box to cover the backside of the compass on the port side and the depth gauge on the starboard side. Inside the box I'll use a block attached with JB weld and at the bottom I'll use a french hasp. I'll post pictures when it's all done. Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:08 PM joe: matt, sage marine's woodworking guy, recommends (in order listed) - * west system epoxy or * titebond 3 (used for exterior applications) are you going to bolt/screw through the cabin bulkhead to hand the shelves? :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I'm making mahogany bulkhead shelves to put on the inside cabin bulkhead. I'm looking for advice on what would be the best glue to use for mahogany. I'll use typical morticed joints and babbet corners and prefer not to use any screws, etc. Thanks much Joe SeaFrog M17
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