Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I wonder sometimes about the other way around...I wonder how many NorSea owners used to sail M-boats..... It very hard to beat the versatile M17.. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210
Whataya sayin'?? Someone would own a Monty and actually use it as a stepping stone to something larger??......Nah, getoutahere... Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: bownez@juno.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore? Joe, I wonder sometimes about the other way around...I wonder how many NorSea owners used to sail M-boats..... It very hard to beat the versatile M17.. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210
Joe, I know you are skeptical, but imagine this alternate reality. A family spends years hauling its M17 to all the incredible lakes and ocean sites in the US, Canada, and Mexico, etc. Because they are young and tough, cruising in a tiny little thing is a piece of cake. They find the ultimate places to cruise along the way, so when they get on in years and the kids are gone, and a little space aboard makes life easier, they plop a Nor'Sea in the water and sail off into the sunset (or find that ultimate marina). Fantasy, yes, and I did not do it, but such a thing has been suggested. Tom On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Whataya sayin'?? Someone would own a Monty and actually use it as a stepping stone to something larger??......Nah, getoutahere... Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: bownez@juno.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I wonder sometimes about the other way around...I wonder how many NorSea owners used to sail M-boats..... It very hard to beat the versatile M17.. Bones
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I think that's how a lot of dreams progress. I didn't get into sailing though until I retired. So I guess I'm going in the oposite direction. I've been lining up little gunkholing trips along the outer banks and sounds that I could never do with the NS. If I get the big-boat-bug I'll try to talk some friends into chartering. I think I might still be ahead of the money curve and enjoy the best of both worlds. I think... Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore? Joe, I know you are skeptical, but imagine this alternate reality. A family spends years hauling its M17 to all the incredible lakes and ocean sites in the US, Canada, and Mexico, etc. Because they are young and tough, cruising in a tiny little thing is a piece of cake. They find the ultimate places to cruise along the way, so when they get on in years and the kids are gone, and a little space aboard makes life easier, they plop a Nor'Sea in the water and sail off into the sunset (or find that ultimate marina). Fantasy, yes, and I did not do it, but such a thing has been suggested. Tom On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Whataya sayin'?? Someone would own a Monty and actually use it as a stepping stone to something larger??......Nah, getoutahere... Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: bownez@juno.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I wonder sometimes about the other way around...I wonder how many NorSea owners used to sail M-boats..... It very hard to beat the versatile M17.. Bones
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On 03-Feb-12 11:21 AM, Joe Murphy wrote: Joe, Let me put in my two-cents worth of experience: I started with a Klepper foldboat at 19 years of age, and later progressed to a 25 foot C/B sloop with two berths (we had two infants and now needed a cabin) when I lived in Germany. A change of venue meant we had to leave the C/B sailboat in Germany, and we moved to Paris. There I bought a 25 foot double-ended Norwegian fishing boat hull with a small cabin and a stand-up pilot house. It had a single cylinder 10 HP diesel with a variable pitch propeller. We lived with it for several years, exploring the inland waterways of Holland, Belgium, and France as well as the Seine, till my wife complained and we decided to buy a sailboat again. We bought a 29 foot Tripp-Lentch in the Netherlands and sailed it down the English Channel to Le Havre, then up the Seine back to Paris. Naturally, MURPHY then got in the act and the Company transferred me to Munich, Germany. Twenty-six years later, back in the States and cruising the New England coastal waters we got tired of the ever increasing congestion in all our old haunts. There was no peace and quiet to be had any more. Boating costs also increased year-by-year as sailing pleasure decreased. That was when we decided to go trailer sailing. Trailer sailing is a whole new low-cost ballgame. I started with a Bolger MICRO at age 75, and then when mast stepping become too difficult, I went to a derelict ComPac 16 I found in Clearwater, Florida. The ComPac 16 solved the MICRO's mast-stepping problem, but I had married in haste, and got to repented at leisure. I rapidly sold the ComPac 16. That's when I heard of, found, and bought a M15. We became devotes to trailer sailing. With the M15 we now had a great little sailing machine again. The interior was comfortable for the occasional over-niter, but primarily we stayed in B&Bs with good beds and a functioning bathroom, and used the M15 for day sailing to check out interesting areas. A few hours up or down the Interstate and we could be in Maine, on the Chesapeake, in Florida, on Lake Erie. It opens all sorts of wonderful possibilities that you never could reach with a large fixed keel sailboat. We sailed on Lake Champlain, on the Chesapeake; on Moosehead Lake in Maine, and on other smaller lakes. Trailer sailing also "forced" us to drive to Quebec on a windy day and go exploring; or to visit Burlington, VT, Ausable Chasm, or Plattsburg in NY, on poor sailing days. A different, but totally delightful sailing experience, and the costs are almost $0 once you have paid for the M15 / M17. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
I think that's how a lot of dreams progress. I didn't get into sailing though until I retired. So I guess I'm going in the oposite direction. I've been lining up little gunkholing trips along the outer banks and sounds that I could never do with the NS. If I get the big-boat-bug I'll try to talk some friends into chartering. I think I might still be ahead of the money curve and enjoy the best of both worlds. I think... Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I know you are skeptical, but imagine this alternate reality. A family spends years hauling its M17 to all the incredible lakes and ocean sites in the US, Canada, and Mexico, etc. Because they are young and tough, cruising in a tiny little thing is a piece of cake. They find the ultimate places to cruise along the way, so when they get on in years and the kids are gone, and a little space aboard makes life easier, they plop a Nor'Sea in the water and sail off into the sunset (or find that ultimate marina). Fantasy, yes, and I did not do it, but such a thing has been suggested. Tom
On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Whataya sayin'?? Someone would own a Monty and actually use it as a stepping stone to something larger??......Nah, getoutahere... Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: bownez@juno.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I wonder sometimes about the other way around...I wonder how many NorSea owners used to sail M-boats..... It very hard to beat the versatile M17.. Bones
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Connie, That was a great piece. It should be shown in the next "Small Craft Advisor". I've printed this out and after I laminate it I'm going to put it in the cabin of SeaFrog to read from time to time when I think I might miss my NS or think about something bigger... Thanks, Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Conbert Benneck To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore? On 03-Feb-12 11:21 AM, Joe Murphy wrote: Joe, Let me put in my two-cents worth of experience: I started with a Klepper foldboat at 19 years of age, and later progressed to a 25 foot C/B sloop with two berths (we had two infants and now needed a cabin) when I lived in Germany. A change of venue meant we had to leave the C/B sailboat in Germany, and we moved to Paris. There I bought a 25 foot double-ended Norwegian fishing boat hull with a small cabin and a stand-up pilot house. It had a single cylinder 10 HP diesel with a variable pitch propeller. We lived with it for several years, exploring the inland waterways of Holland, Belgium, and France as well as the Seine, till my wife complained and we decided to buy a sailboat again. We bought a 29 foot Tripp-Lentch in the Netherlands and sailed it down the English Channel to Le Havre, then up the Seine back to Paris. Naturally, MURPHY then got in the act and the Company transferred me to Munich, Germany. Twenty-six years later, back in the States and cruising the New England coastal waters we got tired of the ever increasing congestion in all our old haunts. There was no peace and quiet to be had any more. Boating costs also increased year-by-year as sailing pleasure decreased. That was when we decided to go trailer sailing. Trailer sailing is a whole new low-cost ballgame. I started with a Bolger MICRO at age 75, and then when mast stepping become too difficult, I went to a derelict ComPac 16 I found in Clearwater, Florida. The ComPac 16 solved the MICRO's mast-stepping problem, but I had married in haste, and got to repented at leisure. I rapidly sold the ComPac 16. That's when I heard of, found, and bought a M15. We became devotes to trailer sailing. With the M15 we now had a great little sailing machine again. The interior was comfortable for the occasional over-niter, but primarily we stayed in B&Bs with good beds and a functioning bathroom, and used the M15 for day sailing to check out interesting areas. A few hours up or down the Interstate and we could be in Maine, on the Chesapeake, in Florida, on Lake Erie. It opens all sorts of wonderful possibilities that you never could reach with a large fixed keel sailboat. We sailed on Lake Champlain, on the Chesapeake; on Moosehead Lake in Maine, and on other smaller lakes. Trailer sailing also "forced" us to drive to Quebec on a windy day and go exploring; or to visit Burlington, VT, Ausable Chasm, or Plattsburg in NY, on poor sailing days. A different, but totally delightful sailing experience, and the costs are almost $0 once you have paid for the M15 / M17. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
I think that's how a lot of dreams progress. I didn't get into sailing though until I retired. So I guess I'm going in the oposite direction. I've been lining up little gunkholing trips along the outer banks and sounds that I could never do with the NS. If I get the big-boat-bug I'll try to talk some friends into chartering. I think I might still be ahead of the money curve and enjoy the best of both worlds. I think... Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I know you are skeptical, but imagine this alternate reality. A family spends years hauling its M17 to all the incredible lakes and ocean sites in the US, Canada, and Mexico, etc. Because they are young and tough, cruising in a tiny little thing is a piece of cake. They find the ultimate places to cruise along the way, so when they get on in years and the kids are gone, and a little space aboard makes life easier, they plop a Nor'Sea in the water and sail off into the sunset (or find that ultimate marina). Fantasy, yes, and I did not do it, but such a thing has been suggested. Tom
On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
Whataya sayin'?? Someone would own a Monty and actually use it as a stepping stone to something larger??......Nah, getoutahere... Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: bownez@juno.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Howzit Somemore?
Joe, I wonder sometimes about the other way around...I wonder how many NorSea owners used to sail M-boats..... It very hard to beat the versatile M17.. Bones
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